High Country Shelters - Aron Snyder

Good article Aron. You make some very good points as well as solutions in the article. It was good reading your thoughts on the subject.

I was one that got sucked into the bivy sack years ago by the industry celebrity perhaps mentioned in your article. I still think that guy is a great inspiration and motivator but I never got used to the bivy sack for the reasons you mention.
 
I still remember my old bivy sack circa about 1990. Spent the night in a rain storm in Rocky Mountain National Park. Every time I would roll in my sleep it would pour water down into my neck! Woke up (as if I really ever went to sleep) to find that a pica had eaten a hole in my pack. Yeah, I love bivy sacks.
 
Great article. Im leaning towards a Sawtooth next year when my credit cards recoup after this years gear purchases for a lot of the reasons that you bring up here.
 
Excellent article. Makes me want to buy a stove but I usually tag out before snow falls and I live in the Edmonton bow zone so WT's are literally at my door step when the snow falls during the November rut
 
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Thanks Aron! It is nice to have someone with real experience tell me what is good and what is not. Makes it that much easier when I pull the trigger on the next purchase and I don't have to do all the gear testing and waste money on not so high quality gear. It also helps so I don't talk myself into something cheaper just because it is cheaper. :)
 
It took me awhile to muster the courage but I love the versatility the tarp/bivy combo gives you. If you still want to have a lightweight shelter you can opt for a ti goat bivy or something like that. It is a good pound lighter than the bugaboo. One thing to think about though on tarps is most guys use two pads and a closed cell foam pad is going to be another 8 ounces or so. Not really needed but it helps to protect the pad a little better.
 
aron, a question. im a 3 season tent guy (tarp tent) but ive been looking hard at the super tarp or one of bear paws tarp/teepees (forget the model) I cant do bivy sacks, just to Closter phobic. do you feel the need to carry a bivy with the tarp mainly for temp rating or for weather proofing also. I take a three season down to pretty cold temps and don't see why one of the tarps im considering wouldn't be able to do the same but I still have reservations about being floorless in the rain. you've undoubtedly seen some weather in a floorless shelter, is a bivy an absolute necessity in weather? I never think twice bout it with a bathtub floor in my TT.
 
aron, a question. im a 3 season tent guy (tarp tent) but ive been looking hard at the super tarp or one of bear paws tarp/teepees (forget the model) I cant do bivy sacks, just to Closter phobic. do you feel the need to carry a bivy with the tarp mainly for temp rating or for weather proofing also. I take a three season down to pretty cold temps and don't see why one of the tarps im considering wouldn't be able to do the same but I still have reservations about being floorless in the rain. you've undoubtedly seen some weather in a floorless shelter, is a bivy an absolute necessity in weather? I never think twice bout it with a bathtub floor in my TT.


You are asking Aron a question?

Ease up big guy!:)
 
aron, a question. im a 3 season tent guy (tarp tent) but ive been looking hard at the super tarp or one of bear paws tarp/teepees (forget the model) I cant do bivy sacks, just to Closter phobic. do you feel the need to carry a bivy with the tarp mainly for temp rating or for weather proofing also. I take a three season down to pretty cold temps and don't see why one of the tarps im considering wouldn't be able to do the same but I still have reservations about being floorless in the rain. you've undoubtedly seen some weather in a floorless shelter, is a bivy an absolute necessity in weather? I never think twice bout it with a bathtub floor in my TT.

Littlebuf checkout the cuben fiber ground sheet at zpacks.com this ground sheet has 5" walls. It is also lighter than the poplular Tyvek ground sheet although a lot more expensive. They can do custom sizing also. I'll be running one of these in my supertarp this year.
 
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