Help finalize the "Dixie Zipper" (Mini CBK) for a group buy

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@Dixie has been working on perfecting a Mini CBK (Canadian Belt Knife) design. I am in LOVE with the design and its effectiveness as a skinning/processing knife.

The name "Dixie Zipper" is inspired in part by @nebhunt when he said this about a knife Dixie sent him:

"The handle design also makes it easy to unzip the hide off animals when you flip it over."​
I completely agree, when I used Dixie's knife, it was like unzipping the hide, just crazy. Unless you have one of these unique designs you just don't know how easy it is. The "zipper" feature is because of the blade design. It also works great for all the other skinning/quartering tasks.

Anyhow, Dixie and I talked this morning and he agreed that I can use his designs and his name. He is super cool, and I plan on getting as many of his knives to sell in a little "custom shop" area. I am in the very early stages of putting together the pieces for a group buy to launch the knife for our store. It started in this thread. Check out that thread for other great knife makers like @CypressCreek and @Slalomnorth. If you want high end custom with a personal touch, their stuff looks freaking amazing and their contributions to the thread are awesome. I hope this thread points people to their knives, cause they are awesome. Any comments from them or about them are welcome. Ultimately, I am sticking to the direction Dixie and I have been working on and this knife is an a different category and price.

Back to this project, I have found a blade maker and handle maker (G10 and/or Micarta). I expect to do the sharpening and finish work in my shop. It will be an awesome working knife, and priced accordingly.

Dixie is sending me some final tweaks of a design that I have. He has sold a few "versions" recently and gotten great reviews on the blade/shape. The interesting thing is that the most customization is really about the handle fit in the hand. So, a lot of what I am asking for is comments on the handle, what are the more common preferences for fit in the hand. That was some of what Nebhunt had comments to Dixie about, preference for feel in the hand.

I am planning on ultimately making a full size with 4.5" blade and a mini with 3.5" blade. And, then to offer each with a different handle design based on preference. One handle will be the CBK design with the "angle" and the two scallops. I know that others prefer a different grip design, so that is mostly what I am interested in learning about from you all.

I am attaching some of Dixie's pics from the other thread, so go through them and let me know what you would prefer. It is a long thread, but the Mini CBK thread actually shows a lot of progress and has a lot of information that convinced me to try it and then my own explanation of why I think the design works. I don't mind any conversation, but if knives interest you, that thread is actually pretty cool. You can see I went into it out of curiosity.

Thanks for any comments and criticisms.

Dixie Zipper.jpegDixie variations done.jpegpic drawn.jpgcold steel dixie.jpgDixie variations done 3.jpegdxie zipper alt.jpeg
 

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Great post! I’ll post a couple more versions tomorrow. The leather handle version is turning out nicely and almost done…likely needs a few tweaks. Pics are of the larger handle model compared to the original and a 3” one I’m working on.
 

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I may be interested as well, cool idea. Personally I would prefer a handle with a little more width to it towards the choil rather than just the traditional shape. Any idea what the weight on these is currently sitting at? What steel and thickness are you thinking?

Also, some of the pictured knives look more leaf shaped while other have a little more”nessmuk” shape to them. I personally think I prefer the slightly concave spine of the nessmuk look.

My personal wishlist:
Somewhere between 1/8 and 5/32 thickness
high end stainless
3.5” blade
Large-ish choil
2.5oz range (less is even better)
Thicker handle for general purpose (not skinning) use

Something between an esee izula 2, argali serac and a blade shape between a nessmuk and a cbk would be sweet.
 
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That top is very close if not identical to the final blade version we are working from.
I wish I could put my hands on it just to confirm but based on @Dixie ‘s posts in the other thread and my background in grinding a few knives I think that is the best model I’ve seen related to this design to be extremely usable and not bigger than it needs to be.

That and im a sucker for orange handles.
 
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I may be interested as well, cool idea. Personally I would prefer a handle with a little more width to it towards the choil rather than just the traditional shape. Any idea what the weight on these is currently sitting at? What steel and thickness are you thinking?

Also, some of the pictured knives look more leaf shaped while other have a little more”nessmuk” shape to them. I personally think I prefer the slightly concave spine of the nessmuk look.

My personal wishlist:
Somewhere between 1/8 and 5/32 thickness
high end stainless
3.5” blade
Large-ish choil
2.5oz range (less is even better)
Thicker handle for general purpose (not skinning) use

Something between an esee izula 2, argali serac and a blade shape between a nessmuk and a cbk would be sweet.
Thanks!

That varies from the ideals of the CBK design, but I think the knife you described would be a utility workhorse. It’s got a lot of the features but greater utility of the nesmuk.

I am going to look at all these and look at a second or simultaneous group buy. It’s definitely a knife I could carry.

The mini CBK is a niche sort of knife, and I think your ideal knife could be a bigger seller.
 
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I wish I could put my hands on it just to confirm but based on @Dixie ‘s posts in the other thread and my background in grinding a few knives I think that is the best model I’ve seen related to this design to be extremely usable and not bigger than it needs to be.

That and im a sucker for orange handles.
As we get this dialed, I will work with Dixie to get some knives for exactly that. I am imagining a set of “finalists” knives and a handful of participants in the thread to get some “hands on” time.

We can create a shipping chain for you to get it, play with them, then ship it to the next guy, and so on.

That will help dial in features.
 

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I may be interested as well, cool idea. Personally I would prefer a handle with a little more width to it towards the choil rather than just the traditional shape. Any idea what the weight on these is currently sitting at? What steel and thickness are you thinking?

Also, some of the pictured knives look more leaf shaped while other have a little more”nessmuk” shape to them. I personally think I prefer the slightly concave spine of the nessmuk look.

My personal wishlist:
Somewhere between 1/8 and 5/32 thickness
high end stainless
3.5” blade
Large-ish choil
2.5oz range (less is even better)
Thicker handle for general purpose (not skinning) use

Something between an esee izula 2, argali serac and a blade shape between a nessmuk and a cbk would be sweet.
I will get the weights for you tomorrow.
I have 1/8 and .100 Magnacut with some .080 on order. All of the test ones were .100 and .080 ABE-L. Post a drawing what you’re thinking ,my favorite thing to do is one offs. Picture is of a couple of my old favorites.
 

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