Help finalize the "Dixie Zipper" (Mini CBK) for a group buy

[bbckfh]

Since then I have gotten my hands on one more Canadian belt knife style knife, a MKC westslope. Should have been what the jack stone was.

Mind elaborating on this? I like my Jackstone, but I think I might like my Grohmann flat-ground better?


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[Lawnboi]

Mind elaborating on this? I like my Jackstone, but I think I might like my Grohmann flat-ground better?


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Jack stone negatives were lack of a full sweep on the blade, it had a decent belly up front but that ends abruptly leaving a flat edge.

It was also thicker and bigger than it needed to be imo. Both in the handle and the blade I like a small, skinny knife with a continuous sweep to the blade, but a nice point for popping joints and following bones.

The jackstone to me felt like an oversized version, much like the picture I have attached, the small northern hunter is an awesome blade, the large northern hunter feels more like a traditional woods knife than a meat knife. The small northern hunter and west slope feel like scalpels.

Iv also come to prefer the more pointed and rounded end to the handle. Makes for a more comfortable knife when holding it like a scalpel.



Still it’s hard to decide between one of these and my deer rock belt knife. All very refined tools.

I’m not the biggest MKC fan, but I can say their kitchen knives and this one are winners.

 

[hereinaz]

What’s the chance this could be a flat grind?


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Chances are 100% it’s a flat grind.

 

[hereinaz]

Jack stone negatives were lack of a full sweep on the blade, it had a decent belly up front but that ends abruptly leaving a flat edge.

It was also thicker and bigger than it needed to be imo. Both in the handle and the blade I like a small, skinny knife with a continuous sweep to the blade, but a nice point for popping joints and following bones.

The jackstone to me felt like an oversized version, much like the picture I have attached, the small northern hunter is an awesome blade, the large northern hunter feels more like a traditional woods knife than a meat knife. The small northern hunter and west slope feel like scalpels.

Iv also come to prefer the more pointed and rounded end to the handle. Makes for a more comfortable knife when holding it like a scalpel.
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Still it’s hard to decide between one of these and my deer rock belt knife. All very refined tools.

I’m not the biggest MKC fan, but I can say their kitchen knives and this one are winners.

Which is the orange one?

For a custom, definitely look at @Slalomnorth love what I see from him and hear.

 

[Ferrulewax]

Chances are 100% it’s a flat grind.

Full flat grind or a flat saber grind as pictured in the sketch up?

 

[hereinaz]

Full flat grind or a flat saber grind as pictured in the sketch up?

I said flat grind. Well, I guess it is technically a Sabre grind because it doesn’t go all the way to the edge.

But, the blade is so wide/tall with the belly that it is a flat grind on the front so it is narrow at point and then Sabre grind on the rear portion.

The ground portion would be super narrow at the tip to make it a full flat grind to the spine the entire blade.

Make sense?

I am no knife guru. So forgive.

 

[hereinaz]

Funny, I keep looking at grinds, and now I see “high flat” hahaha, someone didn’t want to call it a Sabre grind…

Whatever you call it, it makes a very thin edge.

I would not (edit: am not sure I) want to make it any thinner.

Some of the knives that @Dixie has done are .
0.10 and larger, so the grind went further back. This is off 0.08 stock so the grind ends shorter, but the thickness is the same.

My question is, given all that, should I have them make it a full grind?

It’s not set in stone, I can change it.

 

[hereinaz]

@Dixie

Should I have them grind it like yours? Or like the pattern?

I may need a sample to send them.

 

[bbckfh]

Funny, I keep looking at grinds, and now I see “high flat” hahaha, someone didn’t want to call it a Sabre grind…

Whatever you call it, it makes a very thin edge.

I would not (edit: am not sure I) want to make it any thinner.

Some of the knives that @Dixie has done are .
0.10 and larger, so the grind went further back. This is off 0.08 stock so the grind ends shorter, but the thickness is the same.

My question is, given all that, should I have them make it a full grind?

It’s not set in stone, I can change it.

Acknowledging the constraints, I do prefer the full flat grind.

However, I haven’t been one of the pre-evaluators, so if this “high flat sabre” variant works better for the strength on the thinner stock while the tip is plenty thin, I’m okay to try that.

I use the term to mean the full grind profile on the blade. I understand that some may only use it to distinguish between a hollow grind and convex grind on a sabre profile.


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[Lawnboi]

Which is the orange one?

For a custom, definitely look at @Slalomnorth love what I see from him and hear.

The orange one is a small norther hunter by LT wright. They don’t do a flat grind anymore and finding orange is next to impossible. This is the knife that started it for many I hunt with, and originally what I posted in one of the older threads on the Canadian belt knife that got this ball rolling.

I do have @Slalomnorth cbk design in magnacut that I have been using, very fine knife, little bit on the big end for my preference but still a very good blade. He’s currently making me a smaller version as well.

 

[Dixie]

@Dixie

Should I have them grind it like yours? Or like the pattern?

I may need a sample to send them.

I would try to get the grind topped out near the handle just barely showing the transition, leaving just a bit unground at wide part of the blade.
I'm about 3.5 degrees per side on .080 and little over 4 on the .106 stock to get to .010 at the edge.

 

[Dixie]

The orange one is a small norther hunter by LT wright. They don’t do a flat grind anymore and finding orange is next to impossible. This is the knife that started it for many I hunt with, and originally what I posted in one of the older threads on the Canadian belt knife that got this ball rolling.

I do have @Slalomnorth cbk design in magnacut that I have been using, very fine knife, little bit on the big end for my preference but still a very good blade. He’s currently making me a smaller version as well.

Most certainly the northern hunter was the knife that inspired me and sent me down the rabbit hole.Like I've said before "knife makers aren't doing anything new other than small changes to an old designs".

 

[Slalomnorth]

Kind of just skimmed through the thread but I like what I see/hear.

I’ll post a photo of some of my 3” belt knives when I finish one. @Lawnboi is modeled after the LT one in .08” magnacut (63-64 HRC) I’ve also been using a lot of .075” 10v (65 HRC). I typically will grind sub .01” before sharpening. Better to go thinner than too thick.

 

[Marshfly]

Every time I think I have the perfect knife for what I do...