Hammock and tarp use?

[SkunkCabbage]

If I can recommend anything get an underquilt as they sleep a bit chilly but a pad makes them work.
Another recommendation is to put your tarp on a separate suspension system not clipped into your hammock suspension. I’d look at a Dutch continuous ridgeline.

I have a complete Hennessy system for sale with only a few nights in it

 

[ohoopee]

I am very happy with the tarp. I considered the 12' but was concerned with further limiting where I could find trees that would accommodate the extra length. I have a 14x14 hilleberg that I love. I like having a lot of space and would go with the 12' cuben if I knew where I was going to hang.

 

[dittydogood]

Anyone ever hear of or use Jack's r better suspension hammocks? They are having a sale with quilts and a tarp and I'm pretty tempted


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[ohoopee]

They have a good reputation on hammock forums. They are also supposed to be
releasing an ultralight bridge hammock soon.

 

[dittydogood]

They have a good reputation on hammock forums. They are also supposed to be
releasing an ultralight bridge hammock soon.

Yeah I like the sound of that!

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[Beendare]

With Whoopie slings, the right UQ and TQ, a well-made four-season hammock and a big tarp with doors, you will be much warmer and drier than any tent set-up. Anyone who says different lacks experience. There are people who have tried hammocks and there are people who are hammockers. Ignore the former.

WB has spoken. Well you can ignore me then!
I've used a hammock on trips like WB pictured- fishing the Sierras in summer- works fine. I've never done a HF buffalo shoot...so I can't comment on that one.

But when it comes to Mtn hunting.....I've hunted elk in the archery season in the rocky Mtn states for over 3 decades- a hammock on a hunt like that is a rookie move.

IMO, a guy needs to consider the utility of his shelter- a multi purpose Tent/tipi is more functional on a hunt.

 

[dittydogood]

WB has spoken. Well you can ignore me then!
I've used a hammock on trips like WB pictured- fishing the Sierras in summer- works fine. I've never done a HF buffalo shoot...so I can't comment on that one.

But when it comes to Mtn hunting.....I've hunted elk in the archery season in the rocky Mtn states for over 3 decades- a hammock on a hunt like that is a rookie move.

IMO, a guy needs to consider the utility of his shelter- a multi purpose Tent/tipi is more functional on a hunt.

Can you elaborate why it would be a con to have a hammock with a large enough tarp vs other means?

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[Where's Bruce?]

Hammocks aren't for everyone. I have back issues and a hammock helps me sleep faster and deeper because it eliminates pressure points. Some people never adjust to a hammock, they find them too confining and never locate the right model/design or learn the art of hanging. Very steep learning curve...nothing like inflating a mattress and erecting a tent. It takes effort to understand the proper way to sling a hammock. In cold climates without a stove option a hammock is my GO TO shelter. To each his own. I have spent several weeks (during my motorcycle touring years) sleeping in a hammock...it's nice to wake up totally refreshed without back pain. I can't even do that with a 3.5" thick insulated EXPED mattress. I like that I can always find a place to pitch camp regardless what's on the ground. If you are cold in a hammock then you are making rookie mistakes. There is no forgiveness for cheap gear and insulation using substandard options. A quality hammock, tarp, UQ & TQ are mandatory. Guys using matts, sleeping bags and other options are cutting corners to save money and paying dearly for it in sleeplessness. Ya gotta do it the right way. Your mileage may vary.

Edit: there is no such thing as a high fence bison hunt...bison cannot jump. Not that buffalo have anything at all to do with hammocking.

 

[a5sooner]

Im a big fan. Companies make hammocks that are cut for side sleeping. Outdoor Vitals has some light and not terribly expensive products and Hyke & Byke has a sleeping bag specifically made for hammock camping. My entire sleep system will be right around 3.9 lbs this year.

Edit: I’ve been in absolute downpours and been completely dry with a tarp over my hammock. This made me a believer.

 

[Pigdog]

I use an outdoor vitals mummy pod setup with one of their hammocks and tarps. Works great. No complaints or compromises with this set up.

 

[Beendare]

Can you elaborate why it would be a con to have a hammock with a large enough tarp vs other means?

Yeah, it's simple....when hunting the backcountry you need functionality from your camp/sleep system when you get extreme weather. I utilize my system for flexibility. I can fire up my backpackstove and have coffee or dinner while in my bag. Cooking, getting dressed, Assembling arrows, checking your bow- essentially anything camp chore related is difficult to do in a one purpose hammock.

The tarp you say? Well a huge tarp has its own issues in rough weather and strong winds.....while not giving you much protection from wind and sideways rain.

Then there is the extra weight factor or a hammock system; Add it up and compare it to a Tarptent or a Tipi system that gives you full coverage and a lot of flexibility.


A hammock setup along with a tent at base camp is a whole different proposition. There you have the luxury of no weight or bulky gear restrictions.....but is that better than a wall tent with cot? Ugh no.
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[SniperHunter]

It's tight quarters under a 10x12 so a hex would be pretty small for good coverage. I would opt for a wide head end tree or a smaller split trunk tree instead of the spreader bar. That way you have a standard 2 tree setup and you know the tree is big enough to support double the load. You can quickly overload too small of a tree if you have the spreader as a crutch. Just set one strap off the left side and one off the right. If you are doing it right, your tree straps should never be coming off the center of the tree anyway.

 

[Brunt The Grunt]

bought simply light designs trail haven and haven't looked back. My golite shangri la 5 hasn't seen dirt in years sadly enough lol

 

[ohoopee]

I dont have any issues with my cuben fiber tarp/hammock. Sub 40 temps down to about 30 I sit in my hammock or helinox chair under the tarp. Ill fire up a stove to raise temp under tarp. I cook and do all my tasks comfortably. I use a Winter Palace tarp most of the days because I put it in porch mode a lot of time. Especially nice when it rains and I'm sitting around base camp in porch mode. For me, sub 25 degrees, I would prefer my SL5. I spend about 30 nights a year in my hammock, 20 or so about 5 miles up into the Appalachians in all kinds of weather and the other 10 near my vehicle hunting. 20 nights in the teens would find me in a Teepee with a stove.