Hacksaw Ridge Movie

[Brandon Pattison]

I just watched the trailer. Not sure I can watch the movie based on the message it appears to send. I can't repeat what I said. Am I being too critical?


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[Randle]

What message did you hear?

 

[Jimbob]

Ya I am intrigued by what you are thinking. I can't wait to see it.

 

[Brandon Pattison]

Making draft dodgers into heroes.


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[robtattoo]

I'd maybe do a little research on who Desmond Doss was first before you jump to conclusions.
He was a real long way away from being a draft dodger.......

Desmond Doss - Wikipedia

 

[slick]

It never came across to me that he was a draft dodger, just that he refused to carry a weapon into battle based on personal beliefs. Have to applaud a man for standing up in what he believes in.


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[Jauwater]

Left no man behind, dead or alive.

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[Jimbob]

He was a hero. Regardless if you agree with his views he was a hero and that should be applauded. If more young men were like him then things would be much better off.

He may have been labeled a conscientious objector but that is not how he saw it. He still wanted to serve. He found a way to serve his country and his brothers while still maintaining his religious beliefs.

 

[dotman]

"Enlisting voluntarily in April 1942,[3] Desmond Doss refused to kill an enemy soldier or carry a weapon into combat because of his personal beliefs as a Seventh-day Adventist."

"He consequently became a medic, and while serving in the Pacific theatre of World War II, he saved the lives of his comrades, while at the same time adhering to his religious convictions. Doss was wounded three times during the war"

 

[oldgoat]

He's an effing MEDAL OF HONOR Recipient! Conscientious objectors have been around since forever, I've seen mention of Quakers abstaining from battle in the revolutionary war if I remember right. And just out of curiosity have you served your country? I have, 22 years active service and I'm not a pimple on Desmond Doss's butt even, or any other MOH Recipient for that matter!

 

[BroodBuster]

I had never heard of this guy so I looked him up.

The Col. who tried to run him out of the Army for refusing to carry a rifle later, on Okinawa, delayed an attack two hours because it was a Saturday and Pfc's Doss day of Sabbath. After reading his bible for a couple of hours he was ready to join the battle. His Col was not going to send his troops into battle without Pfc Doss and after taking artillary fire Ffc Doss saved his life. One of about 75 lives he saved that day.

He's a stud and a hero!!! Should make for a good movie.

From the Congressional Medal of Honor Society................

Citation

He was a company aid man when the 1st Battalion assaulted a jagged escarpment 400 feet high As our troops gained the summit, a heavy concentration of artillery, mortar and machinegun fire crashed into them, inflicting approximately 75 casualties and driving the others back. Pfc. Doss refused to seek cover and remained in the fire-swept area with the many stricken, carrying them 1 by 1 to the edge of the escarpment and there lowering them on a rope-supported litter down the face of a cliff to friendly hands. On 2 May, he exposed himself to heavy rifle and mortar fire in rescuing a wounded man 200 yards forward of the lines on the same escarpment; and 2 days later he treated 4 men who had been cut down while assaulting a strongly defended cave, advancing through a shower of grenades to within 8 yards of enemy forces in a cave's mouth, where he dressed his comrades' wounds before making 4 separate trips under fire to evacuate them to safety. On 5 May, he unhesitatingly braved enemy shelling and small arms fire to assist an artillery officer. He applied bandages, moved his patient to a spot that offered protection from small arms fire and, while artillery and mortar shells fell close by, painstakingly administered plasma. Later that day, when an American was severely wounded by fire from a cave, Pfc. Doss crawled to him where he had fallen 25 feet from the enemy position, rendered aid, and carried him 100 yards to safety while continually exposed to enemy fire. On 21 May, in a night attack on high ground near Shuri, he remained in exposed territory while the rest of his company took cover, fearlessly risking the chance that he would be mistaken for an infiltrating Japanese and giving aid to the injured until he was himself seriously wounded in the legs by the explosion of a grenade. Rather than call another aid man from cover, he cared for his own injuries and waited 5 hours before litter bearers reached him and started carrying him to cover. The trio was caught in an enemy tank attack and Pfc. Doss, seeing a more critically wounded man nearby, crawled off the litter; and directed the bearers to give their first attention to the other man. Awaiting the litter bearers' return, he was again struck, this time suffering a compound fracture of 1 arm. With magnificent fortitude he bound a rifle stock to his shattered arm as a splint and then crawled 300 yards over rough terrain to the aid station. Through his outstanding bravery and unflinching determination in the face of desperately dangerous conditions Pfc. Doss saved the lives of many soldiers. His name became a symbol throughout the 77th Infantry Division for outstanding gallantry far above and beyond the call of duty.

 

[kparrott]

I guess you and I have very different definitions of "draft dodgers."


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[realunlucky]

Climbed off the stretcher so they could carry a more critical wounded man. That gives me goose bumps. Sounds like Doss demands some damn respect

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[neverquit]

He's an effing MEDAL OF HONOR Recipient! Conscientious objectors have been around since forever, I've seen mention of Quakers abstaining from battle in the revolutionary war if I remember right. And just out of curiosity have you served your country? I have, 22 years active service and I'm not a pimple on Desmond Doss's butt even, or any other MOH Recipient for that matter!

I have. In combat.


This is a ridiculous topic.

I'm how can one dodge a draft if you volunteer?

 

[dotman]

I have. In combat.


This is a ridiculous topic.

I'm how can one dodge a draft if you volunteer?

I guess he dodge it by getting in early?

 

[neverquit]

I guess he dodge it by getting in early?

Lol

I'll never understand this new age take to the internet to express your fake outrage syndrome. And I'm not some old grumpy guy. I'm 33.

 

[CorbLand]

I guess he dodge it by getting in early?

And everyone in class looked at me funny when I busted out laughing, thanks.

Lol

I'll never understand this new age take to the internet to express your fake outrage syndrome. And I'm not some old grumpy guy. I'm 33.

Its because being offended by something is like having a super power and everyone should know you have it and worship you because of it.

 

[Brandon Pattison]

I'll admit, I did zero research. The trailer just pissed me off but after reading everyone's posts I will watch the movie. I spent four years in the USMC infantry active duty. In fact, I was a fraudulent enlistment but wanted to serve. My feet are flat as a pancake but I faked my physical. If I had done some research I might not have posted, originally. However, when I answered the question of 'draft dodger' I was in a hurry, walking and drew a blank on the term conscientious objector. My apologies. There's no doubt that he was an asset and obviously a good reason to make a movie. We all make mistakes and this is one of mine. Sorry if I offended anyone, fellas.

 

[oldgoat]

I'll admit, I did zero research. The trailer just pissed me off but after reading everyone's posts I will watch the movie. I spent four years in the USMC infantry active duty. In fact, I was a fraudulent enlistment but wanted to serve. My feet are flat as a pancake but I faked my physical. If I had done some research I might not have posted, originally. However, when I answered the question of 'draft dodger' I was in a hurry, walking and drew a blank on the term conscientious objector. My apologies. There's no doubt that he was an asset and obviously a good reason to make a movie. We all make mistakes and this is one of mine. Sorry if I offended anyone, fellas.

Thank you for your service!

 

[oldgoat]

I have. In combat.


This is a ridiculous topic.

I'm how can one dodge a draft if you volunteer?

Thank you for your service!