I see what your saying Kurt. I have the ability to get Hornaday ammo at a fraction of the cost to what you pay at the store. I didn't want to confine the question just to Hornaday ammo just to find out what is out there. As far as recoil goes, I am not very recoil sensitive, although i would consider a break if needed. The price isn't really a huge deal, but if you don't put a cap on it, suggestions tend to end up always on the high end. Really the goal for this gun is to be able to kill an elk at 400-550 yards, and try shooting targets past that. I think that can be accomplished in this price range but I could be wrong.