Group applications under Colorado's new hybrid draw?

[Hnthrdr]

Also don’t worry I’m sure the hunting fool dude who helped craft this cluster will write some articles to clear it up, memberships start at 300$ a year

 

[Jethro]

for $100 I’ll do it and even make up some NM predictive odds for anyone interested

 

[Hnthrdr]

for $100 I’ll do it and even make up some NM predictive odds for anyone interested

What a bargain sign me up?! What does the Gila with 2nd archery season with no outfitter look like these days?! Am I at .01% or .03% ?!

 

[resident vs nonresident]

Agreed. I too oppose point averaging for the same reason. Colorado’s lenient return policy would make point averaging especially ripe for abuse…build up a bank of points in your wife’s name, use her points to help draw yourself a tag, send her tag back during the early return period, get her tag money refunded and her points restored and use her points to do the same thing again next year.

Right. I was going on basis that either whole party keeps tags or everyone has to return them (does AZ allow point protection and return of some in group and not all?).
But you’re right if they allowed let’s say 1 of 2 in prty to return a tag and get PP back it’s create such a shit storm. Everyone would do the same as I’d just keep growing my few accounts up and keep hunting higher PP type tag every year at minimal expense. So any new Hunter coming in would never catch up to astronomical point creek.
NO Averaging!!!

 

[Hnthrdr]

Right. I was going on basis that either whole party keeps tags or everyone has to return them (does AZ allow point protection and return of some in group and not all?).
But you’re right if they allowed let’s say 1 of 2 in prty to return a tag and get PP back it’s create such a shit storm. Everyone would do the same as I’d just keep growing my few accounts up and keep hunting higher PP type tag every year at minimal expense. So any new Hunter coming in would never catch up to astronomical point creek.
NO Averaging!!!

In AZ I know some outfitters who do just this, will have a high point holder put in with clients, point holder has point guard and pulls out. The deal is you can’t use point guard more than 3 years in a row

 

[Mighty Mouse]

Right. I was going on basis that either whole party keeps tags or everyone has to return them (does AZ allow point protection and return of some in group and not all?).
But you’re right if they allowed let’s say 1 of 2 in prty to return a tag and get PP back it’s create such a shit storm. Everyone would do the same as I’d just keep growing my few accounts up and keep hunting higher PP type tag every year at minimal expense. So any new Hunter coming in would never catch up to astronomical point creek.
NO Averaging!!!

AFAIK in Colorado returns are handled individually, even if the tag being returned was drawn as part of a group application. I don’t know how that situation is handled in other states.

 

[Hnthrdr]

AFAIK in Colorado returns are handled individually, even if the tag being returned was drawn as part of a group application. I don’t know how that situation is handled in other states.

Correct

 

[resident vs nonresident]

AFAIK in Colorado returns are handled individually, even if the tag being returned was drawn as part of a group application. I don’t know how that situation is handled in other states.

Yup that would make it that much worse. I never applied as a group so honestly never even checked. But this would 100% create extra point builders only paid by significant others/friends etc for personal gain.
As I said earlier I’d 100% do this under at least 4people to make sure I never hunt 0pp unit again