Grit

This has always interested me. Every hunter I know says they hunt hard. I've never really found hunting that "hard," maybe because I enjoy it so much.

I don't worry about being gritty. I focus on the fundamentals and putting myself in winning positions where it's easy/default for me to do the right thing. People who rely on summoning some internal beast remind me of guys who think they can fight because "all i see is red and destroy everything in my path."
 
Little different line of thought here. I've heard guys talk about the "grind" of hunting. Like its something they're doing because they have to. I figure theres 2 kinds of guys out there. The kind who are "grinding" for the glory of that grip n grin and the status they think another kill will bring them. Then theres the guys who are out there because they love it. Plain and simple. Its no grind to do something they love. The worse or harder it gets they smile because those are the memories that will get them through the next 9 months of work until they can get back out there where they belong. All that to say, it seems like some guys have it and some guys don't. The ones that don't are always searching for that motivation. Sounds like you had it in the past, a wife and kids sure change us but I don't think you lose that part. The butterflies are your old self who can't wait to get back out there and see if you still got it.

That sums it up for me.

I hunt long and hard much more so than anyone else I hunt with. They get tired, discouraged, homesick, etc., and go home. They think I have "grit" because I stay much longer, not stopping until the season ends or I harvest something. Nothing is further from the truth as I am thoroughly loving the hunt as long as I can make it last whether I get anything or not.

If I needed "grit" to motivate to hunt I would figure out something else to do.

For me it takes "grit" to deal with the in-laws over the holidays with a smile on my face, but that's something I don't have a choice on.
 
Is this something someone can train and cultivate?
If so, what do you do to give yourself that never-quit, mindset?
Pretty sure I was just born with that. Just ask my parents (if they were still alive). There's a stubbornness and attitude that come with it, that I'm not sure one can just learn and then use. You have to have that "grit" to start with to even follow through on all that.

Apparently, from the time I could crawl I had that never-quit, never-lose mentality. Whether it's just a competition, fighting with an inanimate object that is attacking me (which amazingly happens a heck of a lot more often than it should), or just life in general......I refuse to lose.

From a hunting standpoint, my buddy kind of summed it up for me last year. There we were 10 days into "his" elk hunt, and I was pretty beat up. I was nursing a torn labrum in my right hip that has given me fits for some time now. Both my knees are bone on bone, and I twisted one of them a day earlier so it was swollen like a cantaloupe. We were going out for a morning hunt and it was still dark. I stepped out of the vehicle, put my pack on, and walked around to his side and stepped into an unseen depression about 10" deep with my right leg (the torn labrum side). I went down hard in excruciating pain. Finally got to my feet and he thought I was done for the season. Then a couple minutes later a bull bugled a couple hundred yards above us. My buddy tells the story, "he heard that bugle, and he's gone.......racing up the slope, and I'm the one with the tag". You just do what you gotta do, pain or not.
 
Thank you to everyone who’s contributed so far.

This might get a little philosophical, but I personally see hunting as a reflection of life. Nothing is guaranteed, and your approach reflects your inner self.

People who cheat, will cheat. People who work hard, will work hard. No guarantee of success, only of an opportunity for someone to capitalize on. How people respond to that opportunity reflects what they are made of.

We have another post on this forum filled with stories of hunting partners who quit. The theme ends up being that wherever their line in the sand was, ultimately it was crossed. The next thing you know, these people started acting irrationally. Their focus of concern shifted to getting back to their comfort level at all costs.

I recognize that this is just a hobby. That I’m blessed beyond measure that this is how I get to spend my time. I also recognize that hunting looks differently for a lot of people on this forum. That your motivations may be different from mine.

But for people who have challenged themselves, who found the point where they were both excited and scared because they recognized that they had passed beyond their comfort zone, please keep sharing what drove you to persevere.
 
The average man’s brain isn’t fully developed until age 25. The last part to develop is our frontal lobes. That’s the part of the brain most responsible for long term thinking. It’s what causes us to stop being quite as reckless, to not be quite as “high risk, high reward” as we were.

As a Marine, I have always been in the awe of the reckless bravery displayed by 18-25 year old E-1s to E-5s and lieutenants. But the steady, resolute courage of the staff non-commissioned officers, CWOs, and captains is more worthy of respect. A man who thinks he is invincible and immortal can do some crazy things, but a man who knows he is neither invincible nor immortal is more worthy of deep respect. An E-7 on his fifth combat deployment (or more) is an amazing man. And the backbone of armies.

There’s nothing wrong about thinking about the consequences of your actions. It’s part of being a grownup. I’d still go on the hunt, but I perfectly understand the reluctance.


Age 25 is also when the brain develops the "sense of consequence", probably related to the frontal lobes you're mentioning. It's literally why you can't rent a car until age 25 though. The accident rates and insurance table data all line up on that being the age of someone acting more like an actual adult with a sense of consequences, and being a safer human being.

@43.6N , the stuff that gets to me isn't the grit of not quitting. I actually believe that, especially post-service, the "never quit" values actually get people into far more trouble than is appreciated. There absolutely is a time to course-correct and pursue a different path. That's not the same as quitting though. "Quitting" is more related to psyching yourself out, or not being willing to endure an endurable discomfort. Unfortunately, the body can generally handle far more than the mind believes, until pushed way past limiting beliefs - but it generally takes being pushed that far (by outside forces) to know those weren't actually barriers. So the more you push past perceived barriers, especially when young, the more you realize people quit far short of what they - and you - were actually capable of.

But all that - that's not what gets at me in trying to determine when I should quit. Having a long past of going way the hell beyond smart, and getting the victories because of that, at least gives the foundation of knowing it's not a grit issue for me when looking at that decision.

What troubles me is trying to discern when those nagging feelings are actually my subconscious giving danger warnings my conscious mind hasn't recognized enough yet. And, trying to discern when my mid-20s endurance mindset is pushing my middle-aged body farther than is literally safe. That's happened a couple of times the last few years, in a way that sneaks up on you. That's the stuff that's troublesome.

Other than being in shape through regular, daily fitness, and knowing your capabilities, the grit vs quit question can be helped by laying out a set of if/then guidelines for yourself, and making decisions based on that. "If X happens, I'll turn around/stay in, etc, regardless of how my body feels" types of things. This is an exercise of thinking ahead and thinking it through.

"What will my policy be on weather?"
"What's my maximum distance from the cabin/truck/SxS for shooting a buck/elk, etc, given I'll have to pack it out by myself?"
"How do grizzly impact my willingness to shoot or quarter out an animal as the sun gets lower?"

A million questions like this - with answers already decided, based on the ultimate goal of having a successful hunt where you get home to your family, safe and sound.
 
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