Great video worth watching before getting an elk (or any animal) on the ground.

One issue we had was when we were all done and I was going in for the tenders the belly must have started to bloat. We pulled the first tender and then flopped the carcass over to get the second. When this happened the gas/stomach matter that came out of the esophagus was unreal. The esophagus was loose from getting the neck meat off and the head was removed. It belched out the grass/bile/gasses like a firehose.....
If the belly is starting to bloat (super common when it's warm) you can stay on the "gutless" track but save some grief by using a gut hook to open the belly and let the guts just have some room to slide out a ways. Works great if you do this step after the quarters are already out, and especially if you're on a bit of a slope for a gravity-assist. I don't remove both tenderloins separately. I make this cut anyway to get to the heart, so it's not a big deal to just continue the cut all the way, and then you can reach both tenderloins from one side without rolling it again.
 
If the belly is starting to bloat (super common when it's warm) you can stay on the "gutless" track but save some grief by using a gut hook to open the belly and let the guts just have some room to slide out a ways. Works great if you do this step after the quarters are already out, and especially if you're on a bit of a slope for a gravity-assist. I don't remove both tenderloins separately. I make this cut anyway to get to the heart, so it's not a big deal to just continue the cut all the way, and then you can reach both tenderloins from one side without rolling it again.
Thats a great idea. The first tender was tough to get at with my hands and the belly pressure. The second was simple and came out great. I popped two ribs loose from the sternum cartilage and got the heart out pretty slick.
 
Just because I’m envious of flat spot kills😂 here is the reason you have to adapt and improvise. Also, the reason I pack a saw every time. 95% of mine have been alone, so you learn what not to do and just take them apart piece by piece. Typical fashion, hang pole. Position as best I can or not. Take lower leg off arm. Take arm off. Hang, skin, bag. Take rear leg off, skin, bag. Pull hide back, take off blackstrap, neck, rib meat. Now comes the fun, sometimes have had to gut to flip him over and do the same process. Then on to tendies. This years bull was wedged alongside two very large trees. No way to move until first side was off, then struggle to flip. Rockslide bull no options but to do the same and NOT step into a snow buried hole and roll ankle. Jungle bull spent an hour sawing limbs around him, just to begin working on him. Be very great ful and count your lucky Stars if and when you get one on a table top. Also, another set of hands and a small bull are a blessing during this part of the hunt. Best tip. Go slow, take breaks and don’t rush it and stick yourself with a knife in a bad location or deep. Learn the anatomy and where to make the cuts as needed. Paracord can become a best friend. Some bulls simply make you pay for shooting them☠️💯🤙 And from another post a very good reason to pack extra headlamp.
 

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I appreciate the op posting up my video and all the feedback on it. I hope it’s helpful for folks.

I’ve got the way that I do it, and I’ve done it a lot, but that doesn’t mean it’s the only way. I’d love to see this thread keep going with other tips and tricks people use. I’ve read plenty of comments under videos like this where someone drops a little idea and I think, “holy shit, I’ve never thought of that.” I’ll go try it, and a lot of them end up sticking. they become part of my routine.

On the bull in the video... yeah, flat ground, pretty atypical setup. That’s why we filmed it. It wasn’t planned, but it was a perfect spot to show the process, and the clients were willing to help. Imagine paying for a guided hunt and then getting put on camera duty, bwhahaa, so I’m grateful they were good sports about it. great guys

For reference, I do the exact same process even when a bull’s in a nasty hole or on a steep angle. Sometimes I’ve got to tie him off or brace him, but the steps don’t change. I never need a saw, just a knife. Works for me, but I get that everyone’s got their own style.

As for belly cut vs. dorsal cut, I almost always go with a belly cut. It keeps things cleaner and is more intuitive, especially if clients are helping. The only time I’ll do a dorsal cut is if I’m caping for a shoulder mount.

Last note. some folks mentioned the tenderloins. I did talk about that in the original footage, but I think part of it got edited out. If you have the belly going downhill and do a big belly cut to let the guts roll out a bit. It relieves pressure and makes it a lot easier to get in there for the tenderloins. I showed it the hard way in the video, but the key takeaway is take your time, don’t cut yourself, and remember that tenderloin is longer than most people think.
 
If the belly is starting to bloat (super common when it's warm) you can stay on the "gutless" track but save some grief by using a gut hook to open the belly and let the guts just have some room to slide out a ways. Works great if you do this step after the quarters are already out, and especially if you're on a bit of a slope for a gravity-assist. I don't remove both tenderloins separately. I make this cut anyway to get to the heart, so it's not a big deal to just continue the cut all the way, and then you can reach both tenderloins from one side without rolling it again.
Was wondering this, 2nd tender was way harder on my boys bull. Thought about it after why I just didnt cut open the belly a little…I know it’s gut less method, but making that cut would take only a few seconds and seems like it would make it easier. Good discussion.
 
I couldn't help but laugh when I saw this video pop up, just days after hacking my way through my first animal (cow elk, solo). Had downloaded a less detailed video and don't think I screwed anything up too bad, but it did take 5 hours. Thankfully, she was in a very snowy and relatively flat spot.

Watching Cliff's approach — and reading all the perspectives in this thread — has me excited for the opportunity to refine my technique next time.
 
I appreciate the op posting up my video and all the feedback on it. I hope it’s helpful for folks.

I’ve got the way that I do it, and I’ve done it a lot, but that doesn’t mean it’s the only way. I’d love to see this thread keep going with other tips and tricks people use. I’ve read plenty of comments under videos like this where someone drops a little idea and I think, “holy shit, I’ve never thought of that.” I’ll go try it, and a lot of them end up sticking. they become part of my routine.

On the bull in the video... yeah, flat ground, pretty atypical setup. That’s why we filmed it. It wasn’t planned, but it was a perfect spot to show the process, and the clients were willing to help. Imagine paying for a guided hunt and then getting put on camera duty, bwhahaa, so I’m grateful they were good sports about it. great guys

For reference, I do the exact same process even when a bull’s in a nasty hole or on a steep angle. Sometimes I’ve got to tie him off or brace him, but the steps don’t change. I never need a saw, just a knife. Works for me, but I get that everyone’s got their own style.

As for belly cut vs. dorsal cut, I almost always go with a belly cut. It keeps things cleaner and is more intuitive, especially if clients are helping. The only time I’ll do a dorsal cut is if I’m caping for a shoulder mount.

Last note. some folks mentioned the tenderloins. I did talk about that in the original footage, but I think part of it got edited out. If you have the belly going downhill and do a big belly cut to let the guts roll out a bit. It relieves pressure and makes it a lot easier to get in there for the tenderloins. I showed it the hard way in the video, but the key takeaway is take your time, don’t cut yourself, and remember that tenderloin is longer than most people think.
Hey man, your tip about the 90 degree for the hind lower leg joint was gold, and "going to war" hit home so hard lmao. Everything else is the same except I keep the lower leg on until quarter is bagged. I can't wait to try that 90 cut next time and see if my wars can be won a little easier... I refuse to cut through that tendon and do it through the other side of the joint.
 
Been taking them down to the skeleton for years. So much meat is wasted when only the quarters and backstrap and tenderloins are taken. It seems because that's what's required by law that's all that's available. You'll get another 30-40+ lb of burger out of the neck meat, rib sheath meat and meat between the ribs.IMG_20181024_183316.jpgIMG_20201031_124417.jpgIMG_20191025_135513.jpg
 
Been taking them down to the skeleton for years. So much meat is wasted when only the quarters and backstrap and tenderloins are taken. It seems because that's what's required by law that's all that's available. You'll get another 30-40+ lb of burger out of the neck meat, rib sheath meat and meat between the ribs.
I keep large chunks of neck and roast them. All that connective tissue and tendon in the neck melts out into pure yumminess. For deer if I can get them out whole bone-in neck cross sections are an absolute delicacy.
 
I can see that with the front leg and you noted you normally do the rear leg differently. BUT in the above photo how did you proceed with the rear leg?
With the rear leg I don't care what the hide is doing so I'll cut it however I need to, to get the access I need to pull that leg. I'll clear as much as I can on that back end and around that leg forward. Evidence of sex is always a concern, but I'll start the leg removal by pulling it up and cutting from the forward side, right in that crease......just like I would if I left the hide on.

Now, having said all this........this bull I completely deboned so the rear legs were left attached to the carcass. The fronts I pulled out of the ring, and then deboned them. And this was also the first time that I actually weighed all the meat when I got home........268lbs. And that included neck and rib meat.
 
Rib meat, neck meat and rib sheath meat becomes jalapeno bacon cheeseburger at our house. 5 lb of meat (ground by itself) ,half pound of cheese, half pound of fried bacon, a 1/4 pound diced jalapenos goes through the grinder with the meat a second time. I find frying the bacon first, removes some fat and makes it less greasy when using the meat in the future. Lord, it is heaven to eat.
 
I like to leave the hooves on until the quarters are in the bag also. I also am normally solo, and working the hind quarter from the top all the way to ball socket first, then allows me to come up underneath with it on my shoulder with a lot of leverage and a couple swipes of the knife pops it off and then I got a good hold of it as well.
Ya, I do too.......until it somehow slips away from me and kicks me right in the Jimmies. I just figure it's the bull getting his last laugh in. :mad: Rope or twine will hold that leg too.......if there's something to tie it off to. That really helps as well when it's almost off and I have to make sure I get the evidence of sex attached underneath it.
 
You'll get another 30-40+ lb of burger out of the neck meat, rib sheath meat and meat between the ribs.
Heck yeah (y) I can’t imagine not taking it and never felt like it lowered the quality of the grind. Maybe it does in some way but we’ve always thought it eats great with it.
 
30 or 40 lb of loose meat off an elk beats 80% lean ground beef 365 days out of 365 days a year. I don't make any effort to trim off fat either, that is not bad when it's ground into the meat. Don't need to add any extra beef or pork.

There's something philosophical and wrong about adding beef or pork to elk or deer to remedy the leanness of healthy meat. It's a way processors make more money, no more to it than that.
 
Ha, well I don't disagree that elk doesn't need anything added to remedy something but when I add pork chorizo to make meatballs to bring to parties I never bring any home. 😀
 
Brown up some home ground elk with nothing added, make a great queso dip out of it, and I don't bring any home either.
 
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