Grail Guns

[Bluumoon]

@Ajsomp @AirborneEScouter @Bluumoon @Formidilosus

Is there a reason the T3X orange laminate sporter isn’t more popular? Is it just the import availability? Or has there been major changes compared to the m595 master sporter?
I have to imagine at least a few have come through the S2H course.

Form has one, as does @Nine Banger. The originals are walnut, which has much more soul than laminate. Some of the lines on the Sporter appear improved, some I would tweak.

My grail gun is sitting in the safe, tube fed Remington .22 LR that I spent my childhood carrying beside my grandfather on the farm. He learned to shoot during the depression when every round had to count. I saw him make ridiculous shots w that open sight .22. All the rest are just tools and toys.

 

[Formidilosus]

@Ajsomp @AirborneEScouter @Bluumoon @Formidilosus

Is there a reason the T3X orange laminate sporter isn’t more popular? Is it just the import availability? Or has there been major changes compared to the m595 master sporter?
I have to imagine at least a few have come through the S2H course.

There has only been one Sporter in class- @mtnwrunner ’s, and I have a sporter stock. @Nine Banger pretty much laid it out why they aren’t more popular. $2,000 is a bit much for a laminate stock only- which is all most would really want. I want the stock to put a short barreled lite tikka in…

A fine fella using mine today-

 

[Ajsomp]

@Ajsomp @AirborneEScouter @Bluumoon @Formidilosus

Is there a reason the T3X orange laminate sporter isn’t more popular? Is it just the import availability? Or has there been major changes compared to the m595 master sporter?
I have to imagine at least a few have come through the S2H course.

Most Americans don’t understand where it fits. If they think tikka for hunting they want a lightweight gun with the plastic stock. If they want a long range rifle, they go towards the chassis versions.

Eurooptic has them, but I only saw 223 versions for a short while back in December. The 2k+ price tag is hard to justify for just a stock. If I remember correctly they used to be around $1300 at one point.

I’m sure it does great with calibers like 6.5 and 308, but with 223 it just hammers.

@Formidilosus did you drop the raven action in there?

 

[Q_Sertorius]

Most Americans don’t understand where it fits. If they think tikka for hunting they want a lightweight gun with the plastic stock. If they want a long range rifle, they go towards the chassis versions.

Eurooptic has them, but I only saw 223 versions for a short while back in December. The 2k+ price tag is hard to justify for just a stock. If I remember correctly they used to be around $1300 at one point.

I’m sure it does great with calibers like 6.5 and 308, but with 223 it just hammers.

@Formidilosus did you drop the raven action in there?

I want to get one in .308, but I don’t have that kind of spare change lying around.

 

[Gstew1930]

I want to get one in .308, but I don’t have that kind of spare change lying around.

i have one. its fantastic. It needs a new suppressor but im poor after paying for this sheep hunt. Currently my favorite rifle i own

 

[texag10]

My fever dream is the stock from my CZ457 MTR with the butt inverted so it's a flat bottom with negative comb, and it fits my Tikka.

 

[BLJ]

My fever dream is the stock from my CZ457 MTR with the butt inverted so it's a flat bottom with negative comb, and it fits my Tikka.

That makes two of us.

 

[Formidilosus]

@Formidilosus did you drop the raven action in there?

Yes sir.

 

[RockAndSage]

I think it's got this working against it:
- non-American threads
- heavy barrel
- price
- blue action
- cut toe
- its orange
- pretty sure it's essentially unavailable unless you know Eurooptic has them

The way most of us shoot it needs a new barrel immediately and nitride treatment, so you're basically paying 2 grand just to get a master sporter stock that is plywood with a cut toe and no pillars.

The good stuff:
- you get the master sporter experience but its brand new and uses the mags you probably have tons of
- the laminated stock is only 2 ounces heavier than a Master Sporter stock
- the cutaway toe isn't as awful as it seems pre-purchase
- I've shot the smallest groups of my life with a barreled action that came out of a Rokstok and dropped into the "new sporter" stock


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What's the weight on this setup, as-is?

 

[AirborneEScouter]

I think it's got this working against it:
- non-American threads
- heavy barrel
- price
- blue action
- cut toe
- its orange
- pretty sure it's essentially unavailable unless you know Eurooptic has them

The way most of us shoot it needs a new barrel immediately and nitride treatment, so you're basically paying 2 grand just to get a master sporter stock that is plywood with a cut toe and no pillars.

The good stuff:
- you get the master sporter experience but its brand new and uses the mags you probably have tons of
- the laminated stock is only 2 ounces heavier than a Master Sporter stock
- the cutaway toe isn't as awful as it seems pre-purchase
- I've shot the smallest groups of my life with a barreled action that came out of a Rokstok and dropped into the "new sporter" stock


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Do they at least come with the tikka 2 stage trigger?

 

[Wilfred]

Do they at least come with the tikka 2 stage trigger?

They do not.

 

[Nine Banger]

Do they at least come with the tikka 2 stage trigger?

Nope.