Glass time verses walking /bling calling time?

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Just was wondering how much times you guys are spending during archery season glassing up then hunting that animal verses just going to spots walking and blind calling ??? Exclude chasing bugles. I know everybody is different in the ways they hunt but for me scaling a tall peak where I have a good view of 1-5 miles where I can run the spotter in the mornings and evenings makes more sense than burning my legs trying to get one to respond to a locator call.. just wonder what you guys prefer? oh and this could be elk or mulies..
 
I've only hunted heavily wooded elk country so glassing hasn't been useful in my repertoire. Also I just don't really like glassing so I don't seek out elk country where it is necessary. I'm also willing to whack the first decent bull that gives me a chance so I don't need to see 50 bulls to pick out a trophy in which case glassing is more valuable. I debate even carrying binos but they do come in handy to check out faraway country or just to kill a few minutes midday.

Based on my map research and past experiences I zero in on terrain features that I know can hold elk and carefully and patiently check those areas looking for fresh sign (keyword being fresh), so it's much more focused than burning boot leather in a random search. I don't do much blind calling, elk are huge, stinky, loud animals and I've been able to find them pretty easily without running around bugling from ridges. Once I establish where they are hanging out, I do use topography to get to good listening points where I can zero in and make my move but I prefer to wait them out and let them start talking on their own. If I am calling I prefer to get within 100 yards before he hears any of my calls.
 
Sounds to me like you already answered your own question, or was there a question!! (grin) Glassing can be productive but if you're not calling you're not hunting! (grin)

ElkNut1
 
LOL! Glassing is to locate elk, Calling is to locate elk, both are a huge part of elk hunting! More open country can be conducive to glassing & thicker timbered country can be conducive to calling. Ones sole purpose is to locate then hunt them! Don't forget a Treestand type hunt as well, all have their purpose & place.

ElkNut1
 
LOL! Glassing is to locate elk, Calling is to locate elk, both are a huge part of elk hunting! More open country can be conducive to glassing & thicker timbered country can be conducive to calling. Ones sole purpose is to locate then hunt them! Don't forget a Treestand type hunt as well, all have their purpose & place.

ElkNut1

Calling just makes it easy. It's not needed. Just wanted. In your case. It's an income.
 
Elk are often nothing like Mule deer. Mule deer generally stick around an area unless pushed out. Elk have their areas they like to stick around, but in a day of feeding, they can cover miles and miles at a leisurely pace, while you can be jogging, and they are still gaining ground. So spot and stalk is often NOT productive with elk. Can spot and stalk be done successfully, of course it can, and it can also be a very good tactic at times. But if the animals are talking, there is no better way of determining where they are in short order, based on your location. However, they can go silent, and you'll need a different method of locating them. In short, no one method is going to work every time, nor in every situation. By far, the best method is to get to know an area, and how the animals use that area; that will but you miles ahead of those that don't know the area, animals...

For me, the same applies to hunting mule deer. I want to know the area, how the animals use the area, travel routes, escape routes, bedding areas... Sure I use my spotter, but more often than not, I put myself in proximity of their bedding areas before sun-up, and sit and wait for them to expose themselves. Sometimes that takes minutes, other times it takes hours, Other times, I'm just in the right spot and they come walking in on me. But blindly going to an area and hunting it is generally not productive for most. If able, I will scout an area during the season, as I want to know how the animals react to the pressure of being hunted.
 
Bar, calling is a very important part of elk hunting, it's not the only thing but it sure can come in handy when it's needed. To be a one dimensional elk hunter can handicap us as we strive to be versatile. So many situations can arise that the best hunters will be be able to adapt to about any given situation they are confronted with. That's great if you are well versed & are consistently successful in your elk hunts. Stats show 10% share consistent success on OTC Public Land elk hunts, that leaves 90% who are not enjoying this same success. The information we share can help ones to reduce the learning curve by many years & many are successful their first year out. In this day & age & cost of ones hunts this is a good thing especially for those ones who do not have the luxury of living in elk country. It's not about the almighty buck it's about passing it on! -- If you were to talk with me on the phone you would see this, you don't have to buy a thing from me, I'm happy to share any info free of charge as long as you have the time! (grin)

ElkNut1
 
LOL! Glassing is to locate elk, Calling is to locate elk, both are a huge part of elk hunting! More open country can be conducive to glassing & thicker timbered country can be conducive to calling. Ones sole purpose is to locate then hunt them! Don't forget a Treestand type hunt as well, all have their purpose & place.

ElkNut1
I agree, there are simply lots of tools for the job, all part of hunting. Kind of like being a cranky old man the just likes to creep through timber still hunting is just a tool too. We're all just trying to tip critters. We spend probably 50/50 glassing and calling
 
For elk hunting, I often don't carry binos, I just use a range finder. The binos weigh a lot and don't often get used in the dark timber. Elk are noisy and respond to calls even if you aren't as skilled as someone like ElkNut1. Elk are a lot more adverse to being within 100y of people too, so spot and stalk is more difficult.

For muley deer hunting, I find binos very useful. Deer are quiet and often don't mind if you are 60y away, so spot and stalk works a little better for them.
 
Bar, calling is a very important part of elk hunting, it's not the only thing but it sure can come in handy when it's needed. To be a one dimensional elk hunter can handicap us as we strive to be versatile. So many situations can arise that the best hunters will be be able to adapt to about any given situation they are confronted with. That's great if you are well versed & are consistently successful in your elk hunts. Stats show 10% share consistent success on OTC Public Land elk hunts, that leaves 90% who are not enjoying this same success. The information we share can help ones to reduce the learning curve by many years & many are successful their first year out. In this day & age & cost of ones hunts this is a good thing especially for those ones who do not have the luxury of living in elk country. It's not about the almighty buck it's about passing it on! -- If you were to talk with me on the phone you would see this, you don't have to buy a thing from me, I'm happy to share any info free of charge as long as you have the time! (grin)

ElkNut1

I have talked to you on the phone. You seem to have forgot who I am.

Just busting your chops about you saying if you aren't calling you aren't hunting. When you figure out who I am you'll understand that I don't call, but have a high success rate.
 
well dang boys got lots of good info right there. Its pretty much a bag of tricks and which one you pull out and work with to get the job done. Every place and time will call for something different along the way. How we get it done will be that's persons go/to from then on...Yes we all agree that there is a time and a place that one will out work the other but if those options are not in your bag you are limiting your self to that 90% that ElkNut is talking about. Myself I want to keep every option I have open .
 
It's just a matter of getting good at the method you use. Whatever it is. It free's up the mind and you can concentrate on what you know best.
 
Bar, thanks! Don't know who you are at present so we must not have talked much on elk hunting? I'm guessing you are more into rifle hunting elk over bow? Am I warm? (grin) Congrats on your success!

ElkNut1
 
Bar, thanks! Don't know who you are at present so we must not have talked much on elk hunting? I'm guessing you are more into rifle hunting elk over bow? Am I warm? (grin) Congrats on your success!

ElkNut1

Still Hunter ring a bell?
 
I like having options. Elk can be very temperamental. ("mental" being the key word!) One day they may be all into one call, the next day, nothing at all. I don't like to go into an area blind but when that happens, I want the odds to be in my favor. There is nothing more exciting than to get a bull all worked up and having him come charging in, slobbering all over himself and then having him turn a spruce tree into toothpicks.
 
I like having options. Elk can be very temperamental. ("mental" being the key word!) One day they may be all into one call, the next day, nothing at all. I don't like to go into an area blind but when that happens, I want the odds to be in my favor. There is nothing more exciting than to get a bull all worked up and having him come charging in, slobbering all over himself and then having him turn a spruce tree into toothpicks.


That's fine. That's why they make so many calls. If they weren't popular they wouldn't sell.

I prefer to go to the elk where they live. That's what excites me. To beat their senses on their terms. No tricking them to think i'm another elk. Just me and him.
 
LOL! Pete you ole turd! (grin) I should have known it was you. You're not using calls because you mainly hunt after the rut during the rifle seasons! You need to play all your cards when sharing your thoughts, you gotta play fair! (grin) You need to stay with the "Still Hunter" handle so I can keep track of you! (grin) Have a great day bud!

ElkNut1
 
That's fine. That's why they make so many calls. If they weren't popular they wouldn't sell.

I prefer to go to the elk where they live. That's what excites me. To beat their senses on their terms. No tricking them to think i'm another elk. Just me and him.


I prefer to get in close and mix it up with them too.
Since I prefer to hunt them with a bow, I need to level the playing field as much as I possibly can. True that it is possible to trick them but as you know, you'd better not blink at the wrong time when they get up close and personal!
 
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