Federal 6.5 Backcountry?

[Smithb9841]

I think too much is made about LA vs SA

but i hope its SA

The more I think about it, it seems like it would have to be a long action similar to 7BC. If it was a creedmor sized case in the peak alloy it seems like it would just match the 6.5 prc then what is the benefit over the prc. It seems like it would have to outperform the 6.5prc for anyone to want to try it. Maybe I’m off just my thoughts. Something like a 6.5-06 but in peak alloy.

 

[swampy14]

I was thinking on this some today. Maybe the 6.5cm will be backwards compatible to the 6.5BC
Like the 280rem is to the 280AI?

I don’t care if it’s long or short in the grand scheme of things but I hope it’s short cause that’s what my extra action is without having to buy another

 

[UnckleBob]

The more I think about it, it seems like it would have to be a long action similar to 7BC. If it was a creedmor sized case in the peak alloy it seems like it would just match the 6.5 prc then what is the benefit over the prc. It seems like it would have to outperform the 6.5prc for anyone to want to try it. Maybe I’m off just my thoughts. Something like a 6.5-06 but in peak alloy.

If it could match a 24" 6.5 PRC but from a 16-18" barrel, that would be a great advantage.

 

[glock233]

I could be wrong but I feel like these pressures are going to make wonky accuracy issues. And reloading issues.

 

[Smithb9841]

If it could match a 24" 6.5 PRC but from a 16-18" barrel, that would be a great advantage.

I agree 100% that would be a great advantage. I just don’t think that would be possible with a creedmor size case limiting the powder capacity. But I could be way off.

 

[bnewt3]

One of their stated reasons for LA is to have a narrower case(non rebated .470 bolt face) allowing 1 more in the mag vs magnum bolt face.

Does 4 in the mag vs 3 in the mag matter? To some, it may be a deal-breaker, IMO its a non-issue. If I cant get the job done with 3 shots then do I really need a 4th?

There is potentially a mechanical issue there as well. I think I read that as pressure in the case increases the case balloons and "sticks" to the chamber wall to some extent which lowers bolt thrust, and this grip is lower with alloy on steel compared to brass on steel(or maybe its just because the alloy doesnt balloon as much I dont recall). Maybe theres more surface area on a LA case vs a SA magnum case which is a way to get some of that grip back and reduce bolt thrust.

 

[62flint]

my hope is its a 30cal pushing a 200-215 grain bullet @3000fps out of a 20inch barrel. Then be acurate

 

[swampy14]

For speculation,
If it’s a 6.5BC long action what would draw a person to choose it over the 7BC?

 

[MuleyFever]

For speculation,
If it’s a 6.5BC long action what would draw a person to choose it over the 7BC?

Same that makes a person want a 6.5 PRC over a 7 PRC. Whatever that may be.

 

[Andouille]

For speculation,
If it’s a 6.5BC long action what would draw a person to choose it over the 7BC?

Exactly. 6.5-06 (68gr capacity) size case doesnt make sense to me as it is too timilar to 7 bc (70 gr capacity)in capacity and would be insanely fast. My guess is a case capacity between 6.5CM and 308 to fit in a short action and give 6.5PRC velocities in a slightly shorter barrel, which checks a lot of boxes for a typical consumer while creating similar differentiation within the BC lineup as there is in their competition, the PRC lineup.

 

[Kjc103]

It’s going to be 6.5 creedmoor using the peak alloy cases. So essentially what some these niche companies are doing but from federal.

I would guess 308 is also coming.

Lots of things coming in new barrel tech and cases. If this holds, there won’t be a need for a 6.5 PRC. But just speculation of course.

Not speculation at all.

Nas3 already makes steel cases for 308 and (not currently) 6.5 Creed. You can absolutely get equivalent velocity to the bigger magnums using them.

There’s literally no need for federal to invent a new cartridge. Just buy the Nas3 cases. Even Alpha brass gets you within 100 fps.

 

[Texas270]

Lots of things coming in new barrel tech and cases. If this holds, there won’t be a need for a 6.5 PRC. But just speculation of course.

And this right here is exactly why I recommend everyone to buy a classic cartridge instead of the latest and greatest. If you want long term stability just buy a .270, .30-06, etc. Those calibers will be there till we start using lasers.

There’s ALWAYS going to be something crazier coming along and, funnily enough, the only way to future proof yourself is to go back to the past.

The 6.5 PRC was also a waste of time for most IMO. It’s a slightly better .270 (only at 500+) anyways.

 

[Kjc103]

And this right here is exactly why I recommend everyone to buy a classic cartridge instead of the latest and greatest. If you want long term stability just buy a .270, .30-06, etc. Those calibers will be there till we start using lasers.

There’s ALWAYS going to be something crazier coming along and, funnily enough, the only way to future proof yourself is to go back to the past.

The 6.5 PRC was also a waste of time for most IMO. It’s a slightly better .270 (only at 500+) anyways.

If more people took the time to plug a .270 into a ballistics calculator and compare it to a 6.5 PRC, they would be surprised to see how close the two really are.

Near as makes no difference.

The real leap is case technology. The good news is that it’s ALREADY here.

A high pressure .308 or Creed does do something a .270 or 06’ will never do. That is, get superior performance out of a short barrel.