Fake tight shot groups by stacking targets on top of one another?

[wind gypsy]

I’d think the marking a bullet leaves on the paper would be different if there are layers of paper in front of it vs a single sheet.

Accuracy guarantees are a joke and for suckers unless you have full trust in the maker/smith, in which case no accuracy guarantee is needed.

 

[Axlrod]

Had a builder around here a few years ago, when a customers gun shot 1.5" @ 100, he told them it would shoot way better @600. Said the "bullets needed to go to sleep". I shot 2 of his guns @600 and they were 10" groups!

 

[TOADER]

I just use a pencil to punch holes in the paper...LOL!!!

 

[ozyclint]

I thought it was standard practice to use a coin for group size reference.

Place coin over the 'flyer', take a photo of the tight group and post to social media. Legend.

 

[Vaultman]

Bingo. I think we have a winner!

Look, I’m absolutely not advocating any of this nonsense. My only point is that you can manipulate the targets to technically get sub moa (or whatever the guarantee may be) without doing it the honest way as most people understand and expect. I just wonder if this is at all common.

Like I said previously, I remember reading an article some 10+ years ago when custom rifles, and their accuracy guarantees, were just starting to really gain popularity. The author’s point was that there can be tricky ways to get nice groups printed on paper that may technically meet the accuracy guarantee without it having been done the way one might think or expect.

I’m just the messenger here. Don’t shoot me.

The way that winner recommended, would take 30 shots and changing the target every time. My shooting range goes cold range every 20 minutes. 20(min)x30 = 600 minutes. So in 10 hours I might get a good 3 shot group. Sounds like a fun day.

 

[bsnedeker]

I thought it was standard practice to use a coin for group size reference.

Place coin over the 'flyer', take a photo of the tight group and post to social media. Legend.

Exactly!

 

[ozyclint]

That's great shooting. Well done!

 

[mtnwrunner]

Ya know, some things ya just don't do.


Randy

 

[svivian]

I’m not impressed with groupings unless they are on pie plates or milk jugs

 

[bsnedeker]

That's great shooting. Well done!

Not to brag, but that was at 300 yards...so easily a 1/3 MOA group!

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