Extending the heat in my tipi

[bgbuck153]

Does anyone have any ideas as how to get a longer burn in my stove at night? I have a ti goat titanium cylinder stove and the cedar out west doesn't last that long.... any ideas?

 

[sab]

Nature of the beast, I'm afraid. Small, lightweight stoves are not meant to keep you warm all night - unless you're gonna stay awake and stoke it.

Regards,
Scott

 

[Superkodiak38]

If you can put rocks under or around it they can absorb heat and radiate for a while just be careful if they over heat and have water in a fracture they can blow up. Keep it damped down and put as big a piece in as you can before bed.

 

[mtnrunner260]

Make sure your hunting partner is an insomniac and keeps it burning all night.

 

[bgbuck153]

What about a duraflame type log?

 

[FreeRange]

Just a note on what not to try, charcoal doesn't seem to put out much heat I guess it's because it's not putting out much of a flame. It will provide something but nowhere near what burning wood with flames will put out of the stove box and pipe. Boiling water in a nalgene and wrapping it in a shirt is a good way to keep you warm a bit longer.

 

[oldgoat]

Just a note on what not to try, charcoal doesn't seem to put out much heat I guess it's because it's not putting out much of a flame. It will provide something but nowhere near what burning wood with flames will put out of the stove box and pipe. Boiling water in a nalgene and wrapping it in a shirt is a good way to keep you warm a bit longer.

This is my experience with charcoal also, but it does keep a bed of coals for relighting the fire. I'd really like to camp some place with coal and try it.

 

[colonel00]

Does anyone have any ideas as how to get a longer burn in my stove at night? I have a ti goat titanium cylinder stove and the cedar out west doesn't last that long.... any ideas?

This kind of question comes up now and again. The one comment I like to add is that these stoves are not meant to augment your sleep system and its warmth and you should not depend on them to run all night to keep you warm. Don't get me wrong, I love the stove and won't go without out it but I don't expect it to keep me warm when unattended. Once I'm in my bag/quilt, that should be all the warmth I need.

 

[Superkodiak38]

This is my experience with charcoal also, but it does keep a bed of coals for relighting the fire. I'd really like to camp some place with coal and try it.

Coal burns HOT lol my buddy in PA has a coal/ wood stove and with coal in it , it will run you out of the house

 

[archer wapiti]

This kind of question comes up now and again. The one comment I like to add is that these stoves are not meant to augment your sleep system and its warmth and you should not depend on them to run all night to keep you warm. Don't get me wrong, I love the stove and won't go without out it but I don't expect it to keep me warm when unattended. Once I'm in my bag/quilt, that should be all the warmth I need.

What the colonel said.

 

[William Hanson (live2hunt)]

I use rocks around mine but colonels advice is sound

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[maninthemaze]

I work at a coal fired power plant in Ky so I get enough of the smell as it is. But coal is fairly light for its size. In case you wanted to pack a few large chunks in. Maybe 5 lbs for the size of piece to fill a one gallon zip lock. I large piece like that might last 6-8 hours in a stove.

You can buy large chunk coal locally around here for use in outdoor furnaces.

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[Kevin Dill]

I'm guessing a guy with a tipi and a titanium stove likely isn't thinking about extra-weight fuels to pack in. If you're forced to use what's available on-site my only advice is to use it and completely give up on extended burns into the night. First, it's simply less safe to be asleep in a zipped-up bag while a fire burns in a (let's admit it) fragile stove which is not air-tight. There is no way I want any part of that. My stove gets used to warm me up while having late dinner, and also to dry out the tipi or any damp clothes. I am always awake and tending it during a burn. Before going to bed I usually load the stove pretty good and double check everything. I slip into my bag and enjoy laying there watching the flames flicker and hearing the crackle-pop of dry wood. As the fire dies back, I zip up and drift off to sleep. And that is one of the finest joys this man experiences while on a remote hunt.

 

[oldgoat]

Coal burns HOT lol my buddy in PA has a coal/ wood stove and with coal in it , it will run you out of the house

Yeah, that's why I want to try some, I worked a summer on a gold mine in Alaska when I was a teenager. There was coal vein nearby, we threw a chunk inn the wood burning kitchen stove before bed and it kept the chill off all night!

 

[bgbuck153]

We generally drive the 4wd truck to a spot and set up camp and set out from there so weight isn't usually an issue. I have the cimarron just in case we need to venture off and wanted that light weight option.That why I brought up about the duraflame type logs and my buddy and I have discussed the charcoal and coal. If using coal would I need to set it on something other than the bottom of the titanium stove?

 

[oldgoat]

We generally drive the 4wd truck to a spot and set up camp and set out from there so weight isn't usually an issue. I have the cimarron just in case we need to venture off and wanted that light weight option.That why I brought up about the duraflame type logs and my buddy and I have discussed the charcoal and coal. If using coal would I need to set it on something other than the bottom of the titanium stove?

Kifaru advertises "any organic material" for fuel!

 

[twall13]

One thing I learned about coal from an old timer is that it won't throw out sparks like a wood fire does. He switched to it exclusively with his Wall tent after he got a few holes on top of his Wall tent from some small sparks that his spark arrestor didn't catch.

I've never owned a stove as I've always just planned on gear warm enough to sleep through the anticipated conditions. That said, I now see the value since I loved how his stove dried all my gear out overnight and I didn't have to put on wet gear in the morning.

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[Kevin Dill]

My advice on burning coal in a titanium stove would be to do thorough research and be sure there are no hazards. I've burned coal in a true wood/coal stove and coal does not burn the same as wood. Be wary of extreme hot spots, as titanium does not conduct heat throughout the metal as well as steel. My steel stoves would get a nice diffuse orange glow when burned hard, but my Ti stoves show obvious hot spots as orange blobs with distinct borders. I'm also not sure if there would be any sort of interaction between coal and titanium in direct contact. Coal does not burn all the way down to powdery ash and will produce more flaky ash plus hard 'clinkers' left behind.

 

[maninthemaze]

If in was gonna do it. I would definitely take a carbon monoxide detector in the tent with me the first time. Also, burning coal puts off sulfur, which isn't good in a loose fitting stove. Might want some duct tape on the joints.

We used to buy low sulfur coal from the powder river valley of Montana. It was used in an older boiler that didn't have the emissions equipment that the other units have. That units been off for years though.

I could probably find some big lump coal locally and send you some, if you couldn't get any locally and really really wanted to try it.

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[maninthemaze]

And the sparks being thrown from firewood is water that is trapped inside the wood. Eventually it boils and this creates pressure inside the log and eventually pops or hisses to escape. Coal doesn't absorb water the same as wood.

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