Everyone ready for lockdown 2.0?

[Crghss]

Pfizer's clinical trials were just released and of the 29 people in the study who died from Covid - 15 were vaccinated, and 14 had been given the placebo.

I assume this is an attempt at humor. It failed.

 

[Alaskanopolis]

21 Australians were killed by armed masters last year
8.5 per 10 million. Fewer than Canada Eh and 64th in the world. So pretty safe I'd wager

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Because life is only about safety, I guess.

 

[gelton]

I assume this an attempt at humor. It failed.

Sorry to say you are mistaken.

Covid-19: Pfizer vaccine’s efficacy declined from 96% to 84% four months after second dose, company reports

The Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine’s efficacy against SARS-CoV-2 peaked at 96.2% at seven days to two months after the second dose and then declined to 83.7% at four months, a preprint from Pfizer has reported.1 The preprint, which contains the latest data from the original clinical trial, found an...

www.bmj.com

 

[amassi]

Because life is only about safety, I guess.

What?

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[Mike7]

21 Australians were killed by armed masters last year
8.5 per 10 million. Fewer than Canada Eh and 64th in the world. So pretty safe I'd wager

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You are absolutely right.

The "safest" prisons are those where everyone is kept in solitary confinement, and has learned that there is no hope for escape.

 

[amassi]

You are absolutely right.

The "safest" prisons are those where everyone is kept in solitary confinement, and has learned that there is no hope for escape.

Nonsense
I've also been to Australia
Did they seem to be lacking much?
Some hidden oppression??

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[Crghss]

Sorry to say you are mistaken.

Covid-19: Pfizer vaccine’s efficacy declined from 96% to 84% four months after second dose, company reports

The Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine’s efficacy against SARS-CoV-2 peaked at 96.2% at seven days to two months after the second dose and then declined to 83.7% at four months, a preprint from Pfizer has reported.1 The preprint, which contains the latest data from the original clinical trial, found an...

www.bmj.com

It doesn’t say they died from COVID. It just says they didn’t die from the vaccine.

still failed

 

[Squincher]

It doesn’t say they died from COVID. It just says they didn’t die from the vaccine.

still failed

So, I guess we can also assume none of the placebo group died from COVID either and the vaccine made absolutely no difference?

 

[Mike7]

Nonsense
I've also been to Australia
Did they seem to be lacking much?
Some hidden oppression??

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Even from the pro-authoritarian gov't NPR "media" below.

But the police haven't been able to arrest enough of these happy people, who have been lucky enough to see crime increase under lock downs, etc. So now the military has been deployed to "reason" with its subjects.

Thousands Of People Protest Coronavirus Lockdowns In Australia

The streets of Sydney and other cities filled with protesters opposed to lockdown restrictions amid another surge in cases. Participants carried signs calling for "freedom" and "the truth."

www.npr.org

 

[amassi]

Oh man a country who had to deploy the military to stop protesting despite its citizens having a right to peaceful assembly...What a novel idea surely this hasn't been done anywhere else recently

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[Mosby]

As an FYI, none of the vaccines are FDA approved and companies like Moderna and Pfizer have complete legal immunity if something is later determined to be wrong with the vaccines. That's likely because long term studies haven't been done and they actually don't know what the short or long term affects are but I am sure we can trust them.....

 

[Mike7]

It doesn’t say they died from COVID. It just says they didn’t die from the vaccine.

still failed

So, if say 14 unvaccinated people died of Covid 19, and 15 vaccinated people died of the vaccination during the study period (and another 5 vaccinated people died during enrollment regardless of the drug company's assertions on causality), you think that is a good trade-off?

I would say that those numbers can't be right for a vaccine that was approved, but nothing surprises me.

 

[Crghss]

So, I guess we can also assume none of the placebo group died from COVID either and the vaccine made absolutely no difference?

Really? You don’t understand the article?

Its only stating that out of the 44k that where in the test group. 29 died, doesn’t say what they died from. Only that they didn’t died from the vaccine.

you monitor 44k people for three months, some of them are going to die

 

[Mike7]

Oh man a country who had to deploy the military to stop protesting despite its citizens having a right to peaceful assembly...What a novel idea surely this hasn't been done anywhere else recently

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So lovely to be able to breathe and protest by yourself as long as you stay in your house, under armed threat.

COVID-19: Military called in to enforce Sydney lockdown as Delta variant fuels record one-day rise in coronavirus cases

Officials have warned the outbreak of the highly transmissible Delta variant of coronavirus is poised to get worse, with the government updating official guidance and encouraging residents to get the AstraZeneca jab, amid reports of a stockpile.

news.sky.com

 

[amassi]

So lovely to be able to breathe and protest by yourself as long as you stay in your house, under armed threat.

COVID-19: Military called in to enforce Sydney lockdown as Delta variant fuels record one-day rise in coronavirus cases

Officials have warned the outbreak of the highly transmissible Delta variant of coronavirus is poised to get worse, with the government updating official guidance and encouraging residents to get the AstraZeneca jab, amid reports of a stockpile.

news.sky.com

Mike buddy we're doing the same stuff here even with our right to bear arms et el. I'm just pointing out some rampant hypocrisy and people wearing blinders as it pertains to authoritarianism. Im gonna let this one die, I concede the field

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[Alaskanopolis]

What?

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I don't care about safety if it means living in a police-state.

 

[Alaskanopolis]

Oh man a country who had to deploy the military to stop protesting despite its citizens having a right to peaceful assembly...What a novel idea surely this hasn't been done anywhere else recently

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Fiery, but mostly peaceful.

 

[amassi]

I don't care about safety if it means living in a police-state.

I have yielded the argument to @Mike7
You may have seconds or share in the victory it matters not to me good sir

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[Mike7]

Mike buddy we're doing the same stuff here even with our right to bear arms et el. I'm just pointing out some rampant hypocrisy and people wearing blinders as it pertains to authoritarianism. Im gonna let this one die, I concede the field

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Sorry, I think maybe you misunderstand me? Back 20-25 years ago before cancel culture and 2+2=5 in the US, we had early more covert Marxist training in schools, and political correctness in the greater society. At that time in Australia, no one that I met in Australia was even close to being as politically correct or muzzled like people in the US.

And now it is so much worse here for many with CRT and cancel culture, gov't/big tech surveillance, etc...all supposedly in the name of safety, truth, and equity.

Luckily we have the second ammendment, but it may be hanging by a thread. I only use Australia as a warning for what is coming or already here.

 

[sasquatch]

What about the tens of millions of the " dirty unvaccinated" that already have had covid and have strong anti bodies? Funny how the cdc is not studying this especially after the Cleveland clinic study

Big pharma can’t sell as much if people thought they were naturally immune!


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