End cap brake for DD Enticer ?

[JDBAK]

Does anyone know if there’s an end cap made that will act as a mini brake for the Diligent Defense Enticer suppressors?

 

[khuber84]

I know the thread size is different than the omega brakes, perhaps this dead air E brake would fit, I'm unsure.

E-Brake | Dead Air Silencers

deadairsilencers.com

 

[wapitibob]

google..
e-brake will work but makes the can louder

 

[khuber84]

I've been shooting a lot w/ a Scythe-Ti with 3 port omega brake VS the DD LTI and Sti, there not a big difference, pretty small actually.

 

[JDBAK]

I've been shooting a lot w/ a Scythe-Ti with 3 port omega brake VS the DD LTI and Sti, there not a big difference, pretty small actually.

Not a big difference in recoil, or in sound suppression?

 

[khuber84]

Not a big difference in recoil, or in sound suppression?

Recoil reduction. Supressor gets louder.

 

[Tahoe1305]

Ebrake works and reduces recoils a bit. Cost is length and weight. It is a tad louder but not noticeable. I think it’s value added for a comp or heavy range time. I wouldn’t hunt with it. This is from using it on a comp vs not fwiw.

Edit. E brake is about 1/4” thicker than STi so it doesn’t fit perfectly. Matched up well with normal 6.5” supressor cover. It stops about where thicker ebrake starts. Reduces mirage and doesn’t impair brake.

 

[MajorB_Oner]

Ebrake works and reduces recoils a bit. Cost is length and weight. It is a tad louder but not noticeable. I think it’s value added for a comp or heavy range time. I wouldn’t hunt with it. This is from using it on a comp vs not fwiw.

Edit. E brake is about 1/4” thicker than STi so it doesn’t fit perfectly. Matched up well with normal 6.5” supressor cover. It stops about where thicker ebrake starts. Reduces mirage and doesn’t impair brake.
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Digging this back up.. considering doing the same thing for my PRS 6.5 rifle. Would you say that its worth the investment from a performance standpoint? If you could quantify it, how much less recoil is there with the e brake vs without the e brake?

 

[Tahoe1305]

20-30%. Like anything it’s expensive….but considering all the other $ we spend on stuff…it does make a difference.

 

[83cj-7]

I just got an Omega 300 DT for my .300 Win Mag. The rifle weights 9.5 with the suppressor and ready to hunt. I’ve tried it with a Ti end cap and the anchor brake. The difference is night and day. With the flat cap, the rifle jumps hard to the left and there is no way to spot hits. With the anchor brake, I can see the bullet hit steel at 400 yards. I’m not sure if it’s reducing felt recoil, but it stops the muzzle rise.
According to Thunderbeast testing, the anchor brake actually make the suppressor quieter not louder. I would have to agree with that having shot the flat cap and brake side by side.

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[ltfreeman11]

Which anchor brake are you using?

 

[83cj-7]

The factory Silencerco anchor brake

 

[khuber84]

Recoil X is by far the most affective option. Get the dead air threads. In stock now actually......

Suppressor Muzzle Brake

Self timing muzzle brake end cap for your suppressor. Made from 6061 T6 Aluminum. Type III hard anodized black. 100% made in America.

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[wind gypsy]

According to Thunderbeast testing, the anchor brake actually make the suppressor quieter not louder. I would have to agree with that having shot the flat cap and brake side by side.

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PRB missed the boat with that article in my opinion. They focused on 90 degrees from muzzle readings rather than at shooters ear. The results did show the sico with anchor brake was quieter than flat cap at 90 degree from the muzzle. However, the results showed that it was significantly louder with the brake at shooters ear location.

 

[Q_Sertorius]

PRB missed the boat with that article in my opinion. They focused on 90 degrees from muzzle readings rather than at shooters ear. The results did show the sico with anchor brake was quieter than flat cap at 90 degree from the muzzle. However, the results showed that it was significantly louder with the brake at shooters ear location.

I’m not arguing with you, but I thought that was because they only had the ML readings from both years? And the shooter’s ear measurements were consistently lower for those they measured?

This is from the section about the 5” suppressors:

“Remember all this data was measured 1 meter directly to the side of the muzzle (mil-spec left). So, a peak of 143 dBA directly beside the rifle is not bad! Across all of this test data, it was about 8.9 dBA quieter at the shooter’s ear than mil-spec left. The top 4 suppressors on the chart measured to be 131-136 dBA at the shooter’s ear, although the Abel Biscuit S was 142 dBA at the shooter’s ear.”

Anyway, as a comparative tool, I find that article really handy. It’s helped me eliminate a bunch of options from my search for my next suppressor. My first couple of purchases have helped me refine what values are most important to me and in what order (sound suppression, construction style/durability, weight, length, price).


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[wind gypsy]

I’m not arguing with you, but I thought that was because they only had the ML readings from both years? And the shooter’s ear measurements were consistently lower for those they measured?

This is from the section about the 5” suppressors:

“Remember all this data was measured 1 meter directly to the side of the muzzle (mil-spec left). So, a peak of 143 dBA directly beside the rifle is not bad! Across all of this test data, it was about 8.9 dBA quieter at the shooter’s ear than mil-spec left. The top 4 suppressors on the chart measured to be 131-136 dBA at the shooter’s ear, although the Abel Biscuit S was 142 dBA at the shooter’s ear.”

Anyway, as a comparative tool, I find that article really handy. It’s helped me eliminate a bunch of options from my search for my next suppressor. My first couple of purchases have helped me refine what values are most important to me and in what order (sound suppression, construction style/durability, weight, length, price).

You can go directly to the TBAC summit results and sort by any measure that you want. If you do so, you'll also see that the performance at mil-spec left doesn't directly correlate to how well a given can does at shooters ear.

Case in point- omega 300 with brake at shooters ear dbA was 7th from the bottom of 30 cal cans. Same can was like 59th from bottom (near the top!) in Mil-Spec left dbA rankings. Drastically different. The TBAC magnus rr cans exhibited similar behavior - much better at ML than SE.

Also, where the PRB tried to rank cans by length class, its clear that they dont even necessarily have the right length specs. Nomad LT is marked as a 7.8" can (they are just under 9" with the provide adapters they come with) and the XC ti is listed as 7.4" (its actually 6.74" with adapter). So while I think theres some useful stuff there, some of it is misleading as well and I think one is better served looking at the actual TBAC summit data and sorting by the factors that matter to an individual there.

 

[Q_Sertorius]

You can go directly to the TBAC summit results and sort by any measure that you want. If you do so, you'll also see that the performance at mil-spec left doesn't directly correlate to how well a given can does at shooters ear.

Case in point- omega 300 with brake at shooters ear dbA was 7th from the bottom of 30 cal cans. Same can was like 59th from bottom (near the top!) in Mil-Spec left dbA rankings. Drastically different. The TBAC magnus/magnus rr cans exhibited similar behavior - much better at ML than SE.

Also, where the PRB tried to rank cans by length class, its clear that they dont even necessarily have the right length specs. Nomad LT is marked as a 7.8" can (they are just under 9" with the provide adapters they come with) and the XC ti is listed as 7.4" (its actually 6.74" with adapter). So while I think theres some useful stuff there, some of it is misleading as well and I think one is better served looking at the actual TBAC summit data and sorting by the factors that matter to an individual there.

Makes perfect sense to me. Thanks.


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[khuber84]

PRB is a fn joke, no more than a propaganda outlet pushing the sponsors of the PRS league.