Durston xmid vs xdome

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I can’t seem to find much info from hunters comparing these two.
Looking to get a new tent. This will be for solo use only. I live in Oregon but hunt Idaho and Montana as well. Camp will be on my back roughly 50% of the time so weight is a concern as is setting it up. I’m leaning towards an xdome for ease of set up, but getting 4 stakes in hard ground might be easier then fiddling with poles.
Im holing someone with experience with both of these can chime in with what they see as the best use case for each is.

Also debating solid vs mesh. My current sleep system is a xtherm pad and 10* zen bivy so I’ll probably go mesh, unless someone thinks the 20d fly on the xmid solid is a must.

Also I am open to other options but I’ve pretty well made my mind up to go with a Durston.
 
I can speak on a couple things.

The xmid I had was fine for general camping but was not great when I was off trail. Pitching it in less than flat locations was a bit of an ordeal at least for me. For lack of a better description, I was never happy with how it “fit places, and its footprint overall was akward. Was never really happy with the pitch. Could be a me problem. Fit and finish was great, and it was absolutely a quality product, and I know they have updated the cut and design at least a couple times since I ran mine.

I had planned on ordering an xdome, but in talking with dursten it is not a true 4 season tent. They had high praise for it regarding wind, and said they were comfortable with it to about 40mph winds, they also mentioned snow load would be an issue as well, and advised if either of those situations would be regularly occurring to look at other options.

For me, I have enough general use tents or tarps/ tepee’s that I didn’t really need another general use freestanding tent.

I opted to order an Arcdome 1 from Tarptent as a dedicated free standing 4 season shelter to try.

My personal opinion. I would not order a solid inner unless it’s going to be a winter only 4 season set up. But that’s just me.

I’m assuming you want a floored shelter as these are the two options?

Again my opinion, but I’ve found a square/ pyramid tent with a single pole, or a coffin shaped tarp much easier to place in general, and if I need a floor I’ll run either a nest or a super light bug bivy like from hyperlite inside it. In my experience fully floored shelters have never played well with uneven terrain.
 
Going floorless isn’t out of the question. However I can run these floorless too so if bugs and condensation arnt a concern then I figured I’d just bring the fly.
Can you give me some more details on pitching the xmid vs a pyramid? In my mind it’s 4 stakes and a square or rectangle either way so for the fly atleast I’m struggling to see the difference without trying it myself. If it was an issue of the inner, can’t you run it loose enough that it’ll sort of float?
 
I love my mid x 2. Cant speak on the dome as I dont own one. I did not have issues setting it up on uneven ground.
I saw you’ve got that super tarp for sale. Do you have another lightweight hot tent option or is the xmid what you’re using for everything? Do you have the regular or solid?
 
Camp will be on my back roughly 50% of the time so weight is a concern as is setting it up.
Im holing someone with experience with both of these can chime in with what they see as the best use case for each is.
I think camp on your back vs not is the biggest differentiator for me. I use my trekking poles enough for hiking, glassing, and shooting that I'm not willing to leave them behind as part of a pitched tent really ever. That makes it an easy choice for me for any 'base-camp' style hunts to go freestanding.

I’m leaning towards an xdome for ease of set up, but getting 4 stakes in hard ground might be easier then fiddling with poles.
I did not find this to be the case, I would expect x-dome to be easier in almost all cases. YMMV.

Also debating solid vs mesh. My current sleep system is a xtherm pad and 10* zen bivy so I’ll probably go mesh, unless someone thinks the 20d fly on the xmid solid is a must.
I think insulation wise you'll be fine without the solid unless you're really pushing into the late season. I think the other thing to consider would be if you're ever expecting sand/snow 'spindrift' under the fly edge. x-mid at least has pretty good fly coverage and I would expect it to be better than most 3 season tents in that regard. Overall though I think for most conditions you'd use a UL shelter for that mesh would be preferred. I did end up a tear in the mesh this season though with not that many days, the solid may be less fragile.




longer stories and a summary of my experiences with the x-mid:

I own an x-mid 1 (mesh not solid) and have used it on a couple hunting trips and 1 or 2 backpacking/scouting trips.
I don't have any first person experience with the x-dome. I have a hilleberg Unna which (although heavier and burlier) seems like it shares a similar pitching method to the x-dome. have probably 2x as many nights in hilleberg as durston so far.

My hunts with the x-mid have been in mid/late September around 6000-7000' of elevation in WA state. Overnight temps in the 25-35F range. Winds definitely up to 20mph, maybe with the occasional gust to 30mph. Have had drizzle in it so far but not heavy rain. Have never felt like it was not enough shelter for those conditions although I have become a little more site selective.

I picked up the x-mid to save weight / volume from the hilleberg while I aim to switch from a base camp & day hunt, to camp on your back style of hunting in order to avoid turn around times on stalks and cliffing out in the dark. If I owned an x-dome already I'm not sure I would have bothered buying another tent for the $$ + 8oz weight saving (x-mid is 45oz lighter than my hilleberg lol).

I would say that from the setup factor that free-standing with tent poles is noticeably less faff-factor than the x-mid, especially if you have a crunched tent-site or anything. the ability to pitch the whole shelter and then move it around until it fits has been easier for me than getting 2 or 3 stakes in, realizing the 4th won't go, then tweaking every corner a few more inches until you get it right. I'm getting more efficient but there's a marked learning curve to it and it certainly requires more thought/planning. The first night I ever used it I had very hard ground and had a couple iffy stakes that I tried backing up with dead-man rocks on top. That coincided with the windiest conditions I've used it in and I ended up having to get up several times in the night when the wind popped a peg out and the whole tent wall was flapping. I have since learned to be more selective with my sites but I don't think I would have had to move or adjust a freestanding shelter there, I think I would have been able to ride out the night. I have also switched up to some burlier (easton nano nail) stakes (at Dan Durston's recommendation) as I busted up the stock ones pretty good pounding 'em into hard ground with rocks.

My hilleberg has a solid inner tent which while probably heavier fabric deniers is otherwise probably fairly similar to trade-offs you'd have for durston mesh vs solid. I will say there is a noticeable insulation value to the solid inner tent. I had one night where the garmin was forecasting ~18-22F in my hilleberg and I hung my watch in the inside to get an actual temperature reading, ended up being ~35-40F inside, so probably ~15+F inside-outside differential which was pretty impressive. I was very comfy with my xtherm pad and 30F quilt. That said I wouldn't hesitate to bring my x-mid to similar conditions and wear my puffy in bed if I was chilly.
 
I can speak on a couple things.

The xmid I had was fine for general camping but was not great when I was off trail. Pitching it in less than flat locations was a bit of an ordeal at least for me. For lack of a better description, I was never happy with how it “fit places, and its footprint overall was akward. Was never really happy with the pitch. Could be a me problem. Fit and finish was great, and it was absolutely a quality product, and I know they have updated the cut and design at least a couple times since I ran mine.

I had planned on ordering an xdome, but in talking with dursten it is not a true 4 season tent. They had high praise for it regarding wind, and said they were comfortable with it to about 40mph winds, they also mentioned snow load would be an issue as well, and advised if either of those situations would be regularly occurring to look at other options.

For me, I have enough general use tents or tarps/ tepee’s that I didn’t really need another general use freestanding tent.

I opted to order an Arcdome 1 from Tarptent as a dedicated free standing 4 season shelter to try.

My personal opinion. I would not order a solid inner unless it’s going to be a winter only 4 season set up. But that’s just me.

I’m assuming you want a floored shelter as these are the two options?

Again my opinion, but I’ve found a square/ pyramid tent with a single pole, or a coffin shaped tarp much easier to place in general, and if I need a floor I’ll run either a nest or a super light bug bivy like from hyperlite inside it. In my experience fully floored shelters have never played well with uneven terrain.
I’m literally in agreement with every point here having run 1p Xmid solid and Xdome 1+. Also with the alternatives.

My adds:
The dome 1+ layout is so much easier and shape is extremely friendly for extra gear storage and just so livable. The pitching fuss with xmid in the mountains ended up being a pain more than it ended up being easy, just due to uneven terrain. Both take 4 corner stakes min and more are recommended.

I’ve had Xdome 1+ in high winds. Using the guy lines it did well - I think the solid bottom parts would be better with 6” more height but that’s me.

I think with the add of AL poles as an option for durability, and the ability to add trek poles, it’s hard to beat the Xdome 1+ for a poled shelter. There’s some times when I want lighter.
 
I’m not too concerned about poles needing to be left, if I’m setting up more of a base camp I’ll spend an extra few minutes and cut some limbs.

I figured the consensus on here would be that pitching is better with the dome, but the Durston group on Reddit seemed to disagree. Obviously different situations, but it’s interesting how the majority there seems pretty anti freestanding

Mt_Wyatt Do you still have them both and if so is there still a case for the xmid?

With the livability is that due to the larger inner tent and steeper walls? I’ve been looking at pictures and trying to see if it would be comfortable to sit up and get my shirt and puffy on even in the xmid 2p, but it’s hard to get a good idea of how much elbow room you really have. But the xdome having only one smaller vestibule looked like it might suck a little if it’s pouring rain and you need to re organize your pack. I assume it’s more usable space since the walls are steeper?
 
With the livability is that due to the larger inner tent and steeper walls? I’ve been looking at pictures and trying to see if it would be comfortable to sit up and get my shirt and puffy on even in the xmid 2p, but it’s hard to get a good idea of how much elbow room you really have.

I've been surprisingly happy with the x-mids livability honestly, even on the 1p. Granted I haven't truly been weathered into it for a long time. But for me I think the headroom is more critical than elbow room for feeling comfortable to sit up and I wouldn't say I have a hard time getting dressed or undressed in it. I quite like the two vestibules as I usually use one for access/cooking and the other for pack and rifle.

That said the x-dome 1+ seems like it has about the same amount of space but your 'second vestibule' is just inside which could be nice sometimes
 
The xmid 1 is definitely what I’m being drawn to, I just don’t want to be disappointed. I’m not sure why I haven't already ordered it to try considering it costs less then most good jackets these days.
 
The xmid 1 is definitely what I’m being drawn to, I just don’t want to be disappointed. I’m not sure why I haven't already ordered it to try considering it costs less then most good jackets these days.
Hm, I really thought you were leaning dome!

Honestly you'll probably be pretty happy either way.
 
I have had both. I couldn’t stand setting up the xmid. I could never get a great pitch on uneven ground and it was super frustrating every single time. I would even set it up in my yard to figure out what I was doing wrong. Then once I got to uneven ground it never set up clean. I ended up selling that tent after 1 year of use.

I have the X dome now and really like it. Going back to a freestanding tent has been great. If you don’t like where it is you just pick it up and move it.

My two most used tents are the Argali Rincon and Xdome.

I don’t think you need the solid version unless you hunt into November. But at that point I would usually carry a tent and stove. I’ve used the Xdome in snow and had 0 degree bag.
 
I have the OG version from and while the setup can take a little more thought it really like the tent. I think there's been upgrades since that make it easier too.
 
Since you’ve got the rincon maybe you can help me understand the difference in pitching. On the rincon do you still struggle to get a good pitch? In my mind the xmid shouldn’t be any more difficult then a pyramid to pitch. But I don’t have experience with either.
 
Since you’ve got the rincon maybe you can help me understand the difference in pitching. On the rincon do you still struggle to get a good pitch? In my mind the xmid shouldn’t be any more difficult then a pyramid to pitch. But I don’t have experience with either.
I haven't used the rincon but I used my buddy's seek 4p cimarron for a week and found it MUCH harder than the Durston to get a good pitch and the livability was god-awful. The footprint was huge so it's hard to find a spot for and there was still only really room for 2 and no gear, felt like I woulda been risking burning my sleeping bag up using the stove with 2 people.

I found the rectangular layout of the Durston very helpful to get the corners pegged properly well before the poles go in and the head and shoulder room better.

For me I'd have to be base camping and using the stove heavily to have a tipi make sense.
 
m not too concerned about poles needing to be left, if I’m setting up more of a base camp I’ll spend an extra few minutes and cut some limbs.
I guess that’s possible but you have to consider that being floorless, part of tensioning is extending poles vertically. For uneven terrain each pole length gets to be “custom” so you’re sacrificing your pitch. I’d at least have one of the adjustable poles durston makes if you want to use the Xmid as a basecamp tent. I practice I think cutting branches would be a pain.

gured the consensus on here would be that pitching is better with the dome, but the Durston group on Reddit seemed to disagree.
Well, you have to consider your application is a lot different than someone doing what their activity is. If you’re always taking your tent with you and bivy style hunting, the weight savings of trek poles based shelter makes a ton of sense. It’s easier to pitch but still a large footprint and a lot more fussy than a freestanding shelter.

Mt_Wyatt Do you still have them both and if so is there still a case for the xmid?
I do not have them both. The dome is a few ounces gain over xmid 1 solid I had. There isn’t a use case for me personally now owning a dome. Go with what you want to try, everything we’re telling you is just for context.

With the livability is that due to the larger inner tent and steeper walls?
Very much so. The mids aren’t bad for space but the pole geometry and interior shape add significantly more space in the xdomes. To the point it almost makes me laugh. Photo below from head end just trying to show that, obviously hard.
 

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