Do we have a favorite mace for urban settings?

[Matt5266]

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Maybe a dumb question, but is that available on the civilian market? Thanks.

Good question didnt think of that ha. I believe so.... but not 100% sure on that.

 

[Unknown]

I got sprayed in the eyes with mace in the middle of a brawl that involved at least 20 people. Not sure who sprayed me or what kind it was but it definitely partially incapacitates for a short time, enough time to give a victim a chance to get away.

I would go with something that would be easy for her to carry and use.

 

[StuckoYota99]

I got my wife a gel mace spray for her purse and office. I hope she never uses it.
Also wasp spray will work on animals.

The thought behind the gel mace is that it won't be as affected by wind.

 

[Fitzwho]

Classic wood or metal, depending upon what you’re comfortable with.

I only clicked on this thread to make sure somebody had posted this already.

 

[Glendon Mullins]

Any idea if the gel any better than the regular? Thanks.

I don't have any experience with the gel, sorry. At work we have only ever used the sprays.

 

[Jim1187]

Anyone carrying mace, oc, pepper spray or bear spray should definitely experience it before commiting to it as a plan of defence. I've seen enough people reduced to crawling around barely functioning just due to contamination. If you don't know if that might be you or that you can fight through it and get to safety it is an added risk.

The melee weapon also requires a bit of training and I can see it resulting in legal fees and a hard defense to show no premeditation. A quarter staff or good ash walking stick draws less close scrutiny.

 

[Cady Creek]

This is why the 80's were safer. All the creeps knew chic's carried a can of Aqua Net and a Bic lighter in their pack of darts on their fanny pack.

 

[Yoder]

My personal favorite is 9mm.

 

[Speaks]

I will 2nd this, and be more specific, Sabre Red, crossfire. Crossfire means the can can spray from any angle. including upside down which a lot of the older units could not do. Red means it "marks" your assailant (aka paints them red for identification)

Yes there is a certain percentage of the population that pepper spray will not effect, but it is very small and yes certain individuals can "fight through it",(even if they cant see lol) its been my experience that At the very least it could by you the couple of seconds of surprise that your wife would need to escape, she isn't gonna spray someone and continue to fight and subdue them etc. like the cops would need to. Spray and run.

The marking will help. Spray is not an incapacitating tool but it helps an attacker make the decision that the encounter is not worth it. Being dyed red may factor into the decision that they might want to get out of sight. Might not help with a serial killer but likely does with a casual attack.

 

[Glendon Mullins]

it helps an attacker make the decision that the encounter is not worth it.

This has been my experience at work lol. Sometimes the encounters have stopped at the mere mention of spraying, sometimes spraying them stopped it, very few times do i recall having to spray someone and still continue to use force to subdue them.

 

[dmoto]

Bear spray worked great last week on a 50# unleashed pitbull. Wife and I were on Billy Creek Trail (Pinetop, AZ) for a short walk with my Heeler mix and TW Coonhound (both of our dogs on a leash). Half mile into the walk, an unleashed pit out of nowhere charges at my TW, snarls and goes for the throat. Pit gets a face full of Counter Assault and immediately stops the attack and the offending dog trots back to the owner (who of course plays victim).

My dog took a bit of overspray on the top left side of her neck. Pain in the arse to get all the spray off, but a small price to pay instead of a huge vet bill or dead dog.

I don't have any experience with spray against some meth'ed out transients (plenty of those in PHX/Tempe), but I wouldn't hesitate to use it again against a large, off-leash aggressive dog ready to tangle (also plenty of those in PHX/Tempe).

 

[RockAndSage]

Bear spray worked great last week on a 50# unleashed pitbull. Wife and I were on Billy Creek Trail (Pinetop, AZ) for a short walk with my Heeler mix and TW Coonhound (both of our dogs on a leash). Half mile into the walk, an unleashed pit out of nowhere charges at my TW, snarls and goes for the throat. Pit gets a face full of Counter Assault and immediately stops the attack and the offending dog trots back to the owner (who of course plays victim).

My dog took a bit of overspray on the top left side of her neck. Pain in the arse to get all the spray off, but a small price to pay instead of a huge vet bill or dead dog.

I don't have any experience with spray against some meth'ed out transients (plenty of those in PHX/Tempe), but I wouldn't hesitate to use it again against a large, off-leash aggressive dog ready to tangle (also plenty of those in PHX/Tempe).

And if you'd justifiably shot the dog, imagine the legal and financial problems that still could have come from that, even if you had successfully won in court...

Spray's a good option. Especially if it's one of your options, and not just the only one.

 

[dmoto]

And if you'd justifiably shot the dog, imagine the legal and financial problems that still could have come from that, even if you had successfully won in court...

Spray's a good option. Especially if it's one of your options, and not just the only one.

Yes, correct. My wife is a defense attorney here in Phoenix, you are 100% correct on that.

 

[TaperPin]

I get a chuckle out of comparing a little can of anything to a full size bear spray. I have yet to hear of any training with a full size can being emptied on them at short range. One of the joys of getting a new can every year is having fun blasting the old one at fence posts up close and personal and it looks NOTHING like Leo recruit training with every bug hole and crack pumped full under pressure. I’m not saying it’s perfect on someone amped up, but there’s a great video of a guy working a convince store who kicked a guy out and the dude tried to come back twice, both times getting his hair blown back with big blasts from a big can until he went down.

Ask cops at January 6th how effective bear spray is. Seems odd every POS who used it was pardoned.

 

[Bugger]

I’ll second the POM spray. Carried it around when there were some stray dogs that followed on walks with the kids. I don’t want to fight a dog or shoot one in a neighborhood especially with the kids around, but a spray of that to the face would likely change their priorities. I sprayed a can to try it out and it was a pretty tight stream for about 15 feet.

 

[fwafwow]

I get a chuckle out of comparing a little can of anything to a full size bear spray.

It may not be as funny if your use case is in and around town (like DC, where it’s pretty hard to legally carry much for SD). Hard to fit a big bear spray in your pocket.