Diesel heater/power source

[SteveAndTheCrigBoys]

I would definitely get more use out of the jackery that's for sure.

That would be my choice. I just had the 100 Ah LiFePO4 hanging around. Stole it from my trolling motor.

 

[207North]

Inverter? I'm wired straight to mine...Is that no bueno?


The Vevors do for sure. Both models I've used. Earplugs drown it out for the most part, which I wear anyway.

Inverter would be to have the same functions of the jackery with charging phones, powering lights, laptop and such.

This is assuming that people already have a battery charger capable of charging the lithium battery.

If solar with the lithium you would need a charge controller, which would still put you ahead of a jackery minus having the all in one package.

 

[92xj]

I would definitely get more use out of the jackery that's for sure.

The convenience of this thing is incredible. I just got to my property and have three patio strands of lights plugged in and on, one for the barn, one for the outhouse and one for the treehouse, I also have the 12v heater plugged in and running(the end plug) and have all my small device plugs available. It’s showing I can run all these on for 14 hours. All in a nice little package the size of a big basketball I’d say.

 

[dieselchessy]

I had the Jackery first in my case. I may buy a battery just for hunting camp.

The jackery sees a fair amount of use on camping trips, weekend hunts, kids use it, charging electronics, running lights, power outages, ect…
They are pretty handy.

My Vevor pumps tick a bit, but its not loud or annoying to me. I did buy a supposedly quiet pump but havent tried it. If its quieter the OEM will become the spare.

 

[SteveAndTheCrigBoys]

I had the Jackery first in my case. I may buy a battery just for hunting camp.

The jackery sees a fair amount of use on camping trips, weekend hunts, kids use it, charging electronics, running lights, power outages, ect…
They are pretty handy.

My Vevor pumps tick a bit, but its not loud or annoying to me. I did buy a supposedly quiet pump but havent tried it. If its quieter the OEM will become the spare.

Got a link for that quiet pump?

 

[Esetter77]

I got an hcalory. I believe its the same one @Esetter77 has or similar. View attachment 1032028

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I have the same unit, it's model TC2S. I don't have a ton of hours on it yet, but so far I'm happy with it. FYI in addition to the little wireless remote control that comes with it they also sell an optional wireless remote control with a digital display that apparently has a built in thermometer and CO sensor so you can control everything, including thermostat control, from that remote. I bought one of these, but haven't actually used it yet.

I have not tested the CO warning/shutdown on the Hcalory yet but plan to. I tested it in on my Vevor and was pleased to see it worked as intended. Side note on that is that these units appear to put out very little CO. I initially tried to test by plumbing the heaters exhaust into my closed off 3-hole dog box (with no dogs in it obviously) I could never get a CO reading on my digital CO monitor. I ended up plumbing in my truck exhaust which of course very quickly drove the CO up! Anyway I was happy to see the CO production is apparently very low and the CO shutdown actually worked (not that I want to rely on that). Hopefully will see the same on the Hcalory.

 

[Esetter77]

Do these things click all night long? I've seen them on YouTube and it seems like the click, click, click of the fuel pump would make me insane? I've also thought about using one for my Midwest deer box blind, and wonder how loud it would be?

I have a Vevor with a "new and improved quieter pump" and it does click. I don't find it that annoying or loud, but you can definitely hear it and I can see how it may drive some folks crazy.

I also have an Hcalory and once it is up and running I can't hear it clicking at all, only the fan.

 

[Esetter77]

Inverter? I'm wired straight to mine...Is that no bueno?

You are good, it's better to run a heater straight off the 12V battery if you can. There are efficiency losses converting the 12V to AC with an inverter and then the heater adapter (converter) just converts the AC back to DC (more losses) for the heater.

It's not a big deal, but one of the "issues" with many of the Jackery type units is their 12V DC output will not support the ~150 watts of DC power needed during startup on a diesel heater. It's not a big deal as you can just run the heater off the AC output of the Jackery, but power consumption is going to be a littler higher than if you could have just run it off DC.

 

[92xj]

You are good, it's better to run a heater straight off the 12V battery if you can. There are efficiency losses converting the 12V to AC with an inverter and then the heater adapter (converter) just converts the AC back to DC (more losses) for the heater.

It's not a big deal, but one of the "issues" with many of the Jackery type units is their 12V DC output will not support the ~150 watts of DC power needed during startup on a diesel heater. It's not a big deal as you can just run the heater off the AC output of the Jackery, but power consumption is going to be a littler higher than if you could have just run it off DC.

Are you talking like the little units to take in the back country to charge phones and things?

I don’t have a jackery but I’m sure all the “bigger” units will produce plenty of power to start the diesel heater.

The one I posted above is an Anker but it works perfectly for the heater, I use the 12v plug in, and it fires right up.

My Anker is this one and the link below is the plug I wired to the end of the diesel heater wires

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[Esetter77]

Are you talking like the little units to take in the back country to charge phones and things?

I don’t have a jackery but I’m sure all the “bigger” units will produce plenty of power to start the diesel heater.

The one I posted above is an Anker but it works perfectly for the heater, I use the 12v plug in, and it fires right up.

No I'm talking about the big units, like your Anker. It's good that yours works to start your heater, but you are likely on the very edge during startup when the glow plugs are on.

Most of these portable power units, including your Anker, have the 12V outlet (cigarette outlet) rated at 10amps (~128 watts). Most diesel heaters during startup use roughly 120 to 150 watts so depending on your specific heater and portable power unit, it may or may not work.

Glad to hear yours works, but I know for other folks they can't use the 12V outlet and must use the AC outlets, as the AC outlets are rated to much higher power outputs than the 12V DC outlet.

 

[HairyScandinavian]

^my Jackery 1000 worked fine at home, but in single digits on the mountain the heater would seem to be working then throw a glow plug error.

 

[Esetter77]

^my Jackery 1000 worked fine at home, but in single digits on the mountain the heater would seem to be working then throw a glow plug error.

That doesn't surprise me at all.
I think a good rule of thumb for anyone that plans to run their diesel heater off a portable power station (Jackery, Anker, etc...) is to bring along the heater's AC converter (assuming it came with one) so that if you encounter startup issues you can just run off the AC outlet. The only downside of the AC is you lose some efficiency, but better than not having a heater at all!

 

[Mountain_Life]

NuWay propane heaters are worth a look. Best solution I've found for a relatively light, simple, hot tent setup. If you have a larger tent, a thermoelectric fan on top of it will help circulate the air in the tent. No power source required. Add damper to the pipe to increase efficiency by about 25%.

By the time you add the stove, extra fuel, a power sources, and something to charge the power source, it turns into quite a pile of stuff. Not to mention diesel stinks and once it gets spilled and your stuff is contaminated, it will never be the same.

I agree. I switched from a diesel heater to a propane stove for simplicity and reliability. I can go 4-5 days on a single 20lb propane cylinder. I just use a small Milwaukee fan to circulate air. The stove I have is from Northwoods Fab. Much better quality than Nu-Way, but I think they discontinued the propane line of stoves now.

Edit: I use a damper, and keep it completely closed.

 

[92xj]

No I'm talking about the big units, like your Anker. It's good that yours works to start your heater, but you are likely on the very edge during startup when the glow plugs are on.

Most of these portable power units, including your Anker, have the 12V outlet (cigarette outlet) rated at 10amps (~128 watts). Most diesel heaters during startup use roughly 120 to 150 watts so depending on your specific heater and portable power unit, it may or may not work.

Glad to hear yours works, but I know for other folks they can't use the 12V outlet and must use the AC outlets, as the AC outlets are rated to much higher power outputs than the 12V DC outlet.

Noted and thanks for the info.
When I fired it up this morning it was 25 out, so not horribly cold but still cold. The heater lives mounted on the side of the treehouse so it was also cold. I will test more next winter; doubt the temps will make it below 20 anymore this year.