Topo_trekker
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Anyone else? Still spinning true after a few weeks of shooting? and what specs you shooting?
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Day Six arrows
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All of mine are still perfect, although I can’t say that they’ve been used much over the last few months. I’ve been shooting all my Indoor shafts as of late. However I broke the hunting bow out tonight and shot some at 40. Flight still appears flawless, mine finish at 502 with the aluminum outsert and the center pin. 300 spine
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mikemcgivern
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New centric system looks on the money. These things fly very well cant wait to get them into some animals!
The_Gallagher79
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509.27 grain out of a Mathews Vertix. 29" draw @70 lbs. Chronographed at local range at 290 fps.
RaggedHunter
WKR
I have a day six test pack coming this week. I am excited to get my hands on these and do some testing. My initial impressions with the company from a customer service aspect are outstanding. I emailed with a few questions and Bryan wrote me back in less that 10 minutes and was very informative and helpful.
I have not been happy with the .166 shafts I have tried so for, but I am very hopeful for these. my first complaint was the components (or lack there of). I personally liked the deep six system better that the GT half outs, I hated the GT half out system, got wobble after a ~couple weeks of shooting, also had one break off right behind the collar upon impact on an elk (durability is my 2nd complaint). My complaints with the deep six inserts were the small ferrule size on the broadheads, crappy broadhead selection (although getting better now) and it was very hard to get my arrow weight where I wanted it. I tried all kinds of things from adding double inserts, to double inserts with a #8finishing nail etc. and got my weight where I wanted it and had (in my opinion) a better system than the GT half out system. But I just never did love the deep six broadhead selection and the idea of smaller ferules. After that I switched to the ethics stainless steel system. Components had much better tolerances and were much tougher than the GT, but I still found the Pierce shafts leaving something to be desired with regards to durability by the time I got my total arrow weight up to where I wanted it.
My second complaint with the .166 shafts is as I stated earlier the durability. I feel that the pierce platinums and the injections I shot were too light and brittle and not designed to ever be a heavy tough arrow. Sure the FOC was great by the time i added enough wt to them to get the total weight i was after, but FOC doesnt mean $H!T when your arrow snaps off at the insert when you hit a broadside elk mid ribs.
I have a couple Pierce Platinums left over that I will test side by side with these once I get them. I should be able to test both arrows at nearly the same total arrow weight.
I don't care much about super high FOC or any of that. I just want the toughest reasonably heavy (~500gr.) hunting arrow possible. Really hopeful that these new Day Six are the answer to that. Like I said earlier, I don't think that the other .166 shafts were ever designed to be heavy hard hitting arrows, and thats what I wanted. That's admittedly where I went wrong. That being said, It does sound like the Day Six are undoubtedly designed to be heavy hard hitters, so that with the combination of their new components has me very eager to put there through the paces.
I will post back with my thoughts once I get my hands on them and am able to shoot them.
I have not been happy with the .166 shafts I have tried so for, but I am very hopeful for these. my first complaint was the components (or lack there of). I personally liked the deep six system better that the GT half outs, I hated the GT half out system, got wobble after a ~couple weeks of shooting, also had one break off right behind the collar upon impact on an elk (durability is my 2nd complaint). My complaints with the deep six inserts were the small ferrule size on the broadheads, crappy broadhead selection (although getting better now) and it was very hard to get my arrow weight where I wanted it. I tried all kinds of things from adding double inserts, to double inserts with a #8finishing nail etc. and got my weight where I wanted it and had (in my opinion) a better system than the GT half out system. But I just never did love the deep six broadhead selection and the idea of smaller ferules. After that I switched to the ethics stainless steel system. Components had much better tolerances and were much tougher than the GT, but I still found the Pierce shafts leaving something to be desired with regards to durability by the time I got my total arrow weight up to where I wanted it.
My second complaint with the .166 shafts is as I stated earlier the durability. I feel that the pierce platinums and the injections I shot were too light and brittle and not designed to ever be a heavy tough arrow. Sure the FOC was great by the time i added enough wt to them to get the total weight i was after, but FOC doesnt mean $H!T when your arrow snaps off at the insert when you hit a broadside elk mid ribs.
I have a couple Pierce Platinums left over that I will test side by side with these once I get them. I should be able to test both arrows at nearly the same total arrow weight.
I don't care much about super high FOC or any of that. I just want the toughest reasonably heavy (~500gr.) hunting arrow possible. Really hopeful that these new Day Six are the answer to that. Like I said earlier, I don't think that the other .166 shafts were ever designed to be heavy hard hitting arrows, and thats what I wanted. That's admittedly where I went wrong. That being said, It does sound like the Day Six are undoubtedly designed to be heavy hard hitters, so that with the combination of their new components has me very eager to put there through the paces.
I will post back with my thoughts once I get my hands on them and am able to shoot them.
RaggedHunter
WKR
Just checking back in with an update to my previous message.
After receiving my Day six arrows and getting them put together I have some initial thoughts.
My first impressions have me very impressed with these arrows. Tolerances seem to be very tight, they spun incredibly true upon finishing putting them together.
I will be curious to see if they keep that consistency after a couple weeks of shooting, this is one of the weak points that I found with the GT outsert system. I could get them spinning good when I built them, but after a couple weeks of shooting they would develop a wobble.
Although atleast innitally the Day Six outsert system seems to be a bit beefier, tighter tollerances, and better engineered. Time will tell if it stays true.
Once I've had the chance to shoot them for a couple weeks and see how they hold up to normal shooting, I plan to do some destructive testing and see how they hold up.
I have GT pierce platinums built to the exact same weight that I will test side by side.
After receiving my Day six arrows and getting them put together I have some initial thoughts.
My first impressions have me very impressed with these arrows. Tolerances seem to be very tight, they spun incredibly true upon finishing putting them together.
I will be curious to see if they keep that consistency after a couple weeks of shooting, this is one of the weak points that I found with the GT outsert system. I could get them spinning good when I built them, but after a couple weeks of shooting they would develop a wobble.
Although atleast innitally the Day Six outsert system seems to be a bit beefier, tighter tollerances, and better engineered. Time will tell if it stays true.
Once I've had the chance to shoot them for a couple weeks and see how they hold up to normal shooting, I plan to do some destructive testing and see how they hold up.
I have GT pierce platinums built to the exact same weight that I will test side by side.
After I put those videos up last night I did a little chrono testing, one set of arrows was for my girlfriend. 27/55 Arrows finished at 468gr and are moving a long at 240fps which I am more than happy with for a women's setup. First shot blew through last years block target in the basement and hit the cinder block wall, all is well though, I think the wall will heal up just fine it only appeared to be a flesh wound. The arrow is still running true.
RaggedHunter
WKR
Update to my previous posts. Have had my test shafts for about 2 weeks now and have been shooting them every day both into 3D foam targets and into a bag target. The outserts will get snagged a little in the bag but if you rotate while pulling they come out pretty easy, I have not had any that were difficult to remove.
I have periodically checked shafts for runout and they are still spinning true, no wobble coming from the centric outsert system. Which is a big improvement over other outsert sytems I have used.
Spine consistency is very good. I had to rotate 1 nock about a quarter turn to clean up a slight tear and both are shooting bullets holes through paper. This is subjective, but these arrows appear to come out of paradox very fast. They are flying very good.
Last night I decided to step it up and see if the durability of these arrows lived up to all the hype. I shot them side by side with one of my old GT pierce platinums. I should note that for this test the pierce was not fitted with the GT outsert system, I trashed thos long ago because they developed wobble after a week or so of shooting. The GT was built using 2 deep six inserts and a #8 finishing nail glued in between the inserts to get the total weight over 500 gr.
GT Pierce: total weight 506gr. 260 fps
Day Six: total weight 508gr. 259 fps
I shot both arrows into a cinder block at 30 yards.
Gold tip did not survive. field tip and inserts were shoved about an inch back into the shaft and then end of the arrow was completely splintered out.
The day six survived the shot and was virtually unscathed. The only thing it did was blow the nock out the back of the arrow, put the nock back in and flex tested the arrow, it was fine. I was most shocked when I put the arrow on the spinner, I was expecting some serious wobble after that impact. Nothing.. The arrow spun absolutely true.
Durability has been my main complaint over the last couple of years with arrows I have been trying, and I can say for certain that the day six arrows are unlike anything I have ever seen when it comes to the durability category. I have tried variations of this same test with several other arrow and insert/outsert combos and have not seen anything come away from a cinder block in tact, let alone still spinning perfectly true. Hell, I have seen several combos that developed a wobble after being shot into 3/4" Plywood.
I will continue to report back with any new findings, but so far I have only good things to say about the arrows and components.
Cheers,
Cody
I have periodically checked shafts for runout and they are still spinning true, no wobble coming from the centric outsert system. Which is a big improvement over other outsert sytems I have used.
Spine consistency is very good. I had to rotate 1 nock about a quarter turn to clean up a slight tear and both are shooting bullets holes through paper. This is subjective, but these arrows appear to come out of paradox very fast. They are flying very good.
Last night I decided to step it up and see if the durability of these arrows lived up to all the hype. I shot them side by side with one of my old GT pierce platinums. I should note that for this test the pierce was not fitted with the GT outsert system, I trashed thos long ago because they developed wobble after a week or so of shooting. The GT was built using 2 deep six inserts and a #8 finishing nail glued in between the inserts to get the total weight over 500 gr.
GT Pierce: total weight 506gr. 260 fps
Day Six: total weight 508gr. 259 fps
I shot both arrows into a cinder block at 30 yards.
Gold tip did not survive. field tip and inserts were shoved about an inch back into the shaft and then end of the arrow was completely splintered out.
The day six survived the shot and was virtually unscathed. The only thing it did was blow the nock out the back of the arrow, put the nock back in and flex tested the arrow, it was fine. I was most shocked when I put the arrow on the spinner, I was expecting some serious wobble after that impact. Nothing.. The arrow spun absolutely true.
Durability has been my main complaint over the last couple of years with arrows I have been trying, and I can say for certain that the day six arrows are unlike anything I have ever seen when it comes to the durability category. I have tried variations of this same test with several other arrow and insert/outsert combos and have not seen anything come away from a cinder block in tact, let alone still spinning perfectly true. Hell, I have seen several combos that developed a wobble after being shot into 3/4" Plywood.
I will continue to report back with any new findings, but so far I have only good things to say about the arrows and components.
Cheers,
Cody
Topo_trekker
WKR
How many lbs your shooting, what spine, and what grain concentrics? I agree with the paradox thing, definitely a solid arrow. What’s your thoughts on them being a “ultra-micro diameter” arrow. I have the 250s which seem to be more in the small diameter category.
GT at that weight was probably way to weak leading to decreased durability. Pierce survived cement for me with correct spine but only have gotten kinetic kaos and axis with collar system to survive cement test and spin true at 65#.
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GT at that weight was probably way to weak leading to decreased durability. Pierce survived cement for me with correct spine but only have gotten kinetic kaos and axis with collar system to survive cement test and spin true at 65#.
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RaggedHunter
WKR
Topo_trekker,
Shooting 70lbs 29"draw. Both the Day Six and the GT are .300 spine. Arrows are cut to 27.75" carbon to carbon. I do agree that for this test the Pierce are on the weak side, they do tear slightly weak through paper. And I agree that may be contributing to the durability some, but in the past I have dropped the weight down to the 450-465 gr total and had them spine out well and still had durability issues. I had one snap off directly behind the GT collar on a broadside mid ribs hit on an elk. That arrow was 465 total and spined out perfectly from my bow. I do not think that was a spine issue, I believe it was a durability/ crummy components issue. The durability issues that I experienced that got me going down this rabbit hole in the first place, spine was not an issue.
I do agree that for this test the GT arrow at 506gr was weak spined. That being said, I do not believe that even if I dropped the weight up front and got the spine correct, that this particular setup would have survived. However, It may have done better with a footer of some sort. I would be surprised if it still spun true after that impact even with a footer.
I have heard good things about the axis/footer combo, and that was my next setup to try if the day six did not pan out. Still may try it just for fun eventually. Those iron will collars with an axis look like a really nice setup, would be fun to play with.
As far as "micro" vs "small" diameter, The walls are noticeably thicker than those of the GTs. I would still classify them as a micro in the .300 spine, although the OD is probably somewhere right in between "micro" and "small". they are still pretty dang small in my opinion.
RaggedHunter
WKR
I should note that wiith regards to the Day six setup I was testing I am using the 50gr. aluminum centric components.
Topo_trekker
WKR
Good to hear the aluminum’s hold up!
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Nate_Beres
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mylsuhat
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What insert/sleeve combo are yall using? I am thinking AL/AL but feel those won't be as sturdy as maybe a TI/TI. Any corrosion issues for those running AL and TI together?
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