CWD Concern and SE Wyoming Deer & Elk

[Laramie]

The majority of guys I know act like CWD doesn't even exist. They just go about hunting like its not a thing.

Sometimes I wish I could have that attitude. But unfortunately I dont.

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I know plenty of guys like that. One of them had a deer tested this year at a check station. Several weeks later he got an email stating his deer was positive and he is sweating it bad. Guessing he ends up throwing it away. I think stories like that will become more and more frequent.

 

[realunlucky]

There are plenty of members on this forum what would happily kill an deer or elk for just the antlers. I personally won't support that approach no matter the reason.

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[RyanT26]

The majority of guys I know act like CWD doesn't even exist. They just go about hunting like its not a thing.

Sometimes I wish I could have that attitude. But unfortunately I dont.

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It’s probably due to the realization that the prevalence rate of CWD in animals is much higher than what the testing is showing.

 

[Laramie]

There are plenty of members on this forum what would happily kill an deer or elk for just the antlers. I personally won't support that approach no matter the reason.

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Agree completely. Sad.

 

[Laramie]

It’s probably due to the realization that the prevalence rate of CWD in animals is much higher than what the testing is showing.

Agreed. Crazy to think about.

 

[mt terry d]

The number of predators on the landscape clean up dead animals very quickly so it is pretty rare to find a carcass.

I don't buy this explanation. And there's no "science" behind it that I'm aware of.

Are the carcasses found tested (I doubt it) and how is it determined the animal died from and not with CWD?

If the problem was as great as purported and affects older deer more we'd be finding deadheads at a greater rate. And carcases in the spring. It ain't happening.

( Not directing this at you personally Laramie, just at the premise.)

 

[Laramie]

I don't buy this explanation. And there's no "science" behind it that I'm aware of.

Are the carcasses found tested (I doubt it) and how is it determined the animal died from and not with CWD?

If the problem was as great as purported and affects older deer more we'd be finding deadheads at a greater rate. And carcases in the spring. It ain't happening.

( Not directing this at you personally Laramie, just at the premise.)

I agree that not all things line up. I have picked up 3 larger dead heads in the last 10 years. That isn't a lot but it is more than I found in the 20 years prior to that? I honestly chalked them up to winter kill or poor shot placement by a hunter. Could have been CWD? The only data we have to go off of is the testing conducted at check stations or by hunters who submit samples for testing.

Curious, would you eat a positive tested deer?

 

[Predator_SD]

To anyone actually concerned about eating a CWD infected animal please stop hunting. It’s pathetic people will shoot animals then throw them in the landfill if they are CWD positive. That my friends is called Wanton Waste. Particularly with something that doesn’t infect humans.

If you’re seriously that concerned about getting sick from deer stop worrying about CWD and start sending your carcasses in to be tested for Tularemia, Brucellosis, Coxiella burnetii, Trichinella, Fascioloides magna, etc. These actually CAN infect you. So if you’re throwing deer in dumpsters over CWD positive tests you better be checking for these as well.

Have a good one.

 

[Laramie]

To anyone actually concerned about eating a CWD infected animal please stop hunting. It’s pathetic people will shoot animals then throw them in the landfill if they are CWD positive. That my friends is called Wanton Waste. Particularly with something that doesn’t infect humans.

If you’re seriously that concerned about getting sick from deer stop worrying about CWD and start sending your carcasses in to be tested for Tularemia, Brucellosis, Coxiella burnetii, Trichinella, Fascioloides magna, etc. These actually CAN infect you. So if you’re throwing deer in dumpsters over CWD positive tests you better be checking for here as well.

Have a good one.

I don't disagree at all. The main reason I posted this was to avoid people shooting animals that they don't eventually eat. For those people worried that have saved up a bunch of preference points, there are still areas where CWD hasn't been found.

 

[RyanT26]

I would wager 10 years from now CWD deer and elk will be the norm. So get use to it because the genie is out of the bottle. The alfalfa or feed they’re giving the elk on the feed grounds in Wyoming could be carry the prion and contributing to the spread.

State G&F have an idea on infection rates but it’s just a guess.
Kansas, for instance only shows CWD in the Northwestern to N Central third of the state. But according to the some of the infectious disease folks at the Kansas Department of Ag, “CWD is endemic throughout Kansas”. It’s just the majority of the testing is occurring in the NW/NC.

 

[Overdrive]

In 2021 all the Deer we guided in Area 64 which is area 7 (Elk) tested positive for CWD.

I feel the biggest spreader in this particular area is an alfalfa pivot on a Ranch close to the Ranch we lease. At any given time during the Fall you can see 200 Elk and 150 deer out feeding in this field. This Ranch doesn't allow hunting and many of the deer we watch and hunt move off this field onto the Ranch we lease for bedding.

 

[spike camp]

To anyone actually concerned about eating a CWD infected animal please stop hunting. It’s pathetic people will shoot animals then throw them in the landfill if they are CWD positive. That my friends is called Wanton Waste. Particularly with something that doesn’t infect humans.

If you’re seriously that concerned about getting sick from deer stop worrying about CWD and start sending your carcasses in to be tested for Tularemia, Brucellosis, Coxiella burnetii, Trichinella, Fascioloides magna, etc. These actually CAN infect you. So if you’re throwing deer in dumpsters over CWD positive tests you better be checking for here as well.

Have a good one.

No, it’s not wanton waste.
In fact, Colorado parks and wildlife officers encourage this exact practice, as removing infected animals from the landscape, is the only PROVEN way to slow the prevalence rate.

 

[RyanT26]

No, it’s not wanton waste.
In fact, Colorado parks and wildlife officers encourage this exact practice, as removing infected animals from the landscape, is the only PROVEN way to slow the prevalence rate.

by the time the living animal has been turned into a carcass the damage is done.
Whether the animal rots out there or is scavenged by animals is almost inconsequential. Thats like worrying about rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

 

[spike camp]

by the time the living animal has been turned into a carcass the damage is done.
Whether the animal rots out there or is scavenged by animals is almost inconsequential. Thats like worrying about rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

In reality… that’s not accurate, whatsoever.

 

[RyanT26]

In reality… that’s not accurate, whatsoever.

In reality it is.

 

[spike camp]

In reality it is.

Like most that have inaccurate takes on subjects like CWD, first hand experience is also lacking.

 

[Hnthrdr]

Laramie…. This wouldn’t be an early season psy-op to keep fellas looking west to draw… would it ? Haha

PSA for Colorado: I too hunt areas that cwd prevalence in Co, so no one should try to draw those tags! All the deer and elk are sickly and will kills ya

 

[Hnthrdr]

I know plenty of guys like that. One of them had a deer tested this year at a check station. Several weeks later he got an email stating his deer was positive and he is sweating it bad. Guessing he ends up throwing it away. I think stories like that will become more and more frequent.

you guys throw away skull plates and antlers too with the meat?

 

[grfox92]

Like most that have inaccurate takes on subjects like CWD, first hand experience is also lacking.

There was a study done recently where a penned off area had a cwd positive carcass deposited into the pen.

It was left there until it was just a skeleton of bleach white bones. Then a few deer who were not exposed to cwd were released into the pen. All of the deer released into the pen contracted CWD.

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[spike camp]

There was a study done recently where a penned off area had a cwd positive carcass deposited into the pen.

It was left there until it was just a skeleton of bleach white bones. Then a few deer who were not exposed to cwd were released into the pen. All of the deer released into the pen contracted CWD.

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That is exactly what I would expect to happen.
Whats your point?