Concerned about CWD In Idaho

[Terrapin]

I’m confused about what’s going on with CWD in Idaho. I heard that there have been a couple of outbreaks at elk ranches… and due to slow reporting those animals have been shipped to shoot ranches all over the state. This is concerning in and of itself, but the state is also considering loosening the safety requirements for elk ranches/ high fence shoot farms… supposedly to make it easier and more profitable for the elk farmers.

I’m definitely pro property & business rights, but these twenty elk ranches and shoot farms in Idaho are jeopardizing our entire elk and deer population. They must have an incredible lobby if they can justify this amount of risk to profit such a small number of ranchers.


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[Customweld]

I’m confused about what’s going on with CWD in Idaho. I heard that there have been a couple of outbreaks at elk ranches… and due to slow reporting those animals have been shipped to shoot ranches all over the state. This is concerning in and of itself, but the state is also considering loosening the safety requirements for elk ranches/ high fence shoot farms… supposedly to make it easier and more profitable for the elk farmers.

I’m definitely pro property & business rights, but these twenty elk ranches and shoot farms in Idaho are jeopardizing our entire elk and deer population. They must have an incredible lobby if they can justify this amount of risk to profit such a small number of ranchers.


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Second Case of Chronic Wasting Disease Detected in Idaho Domestic Elk

Boise, Idaho – The Idaho State Department of Agriculture (ISDA) received confirmation of Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD) following testing of an adult domestic cow elk that died at a captive facility in Jefferson County. This detection is the second case of CWD identified in a captive elk in...

agri.idaho.gov

And yes, they have a helluva lobbyist.

 

[mt terry d]

"Outbreak".

Just wait till Alaska figures out how much $$$$ their F&G department
can get by discovering CWD.

 

[wapitibob]

CO and WY have had CWD for 40 years. The sky isn't falling.

 

[jmez]

I'd guess the captive game farms are under the Dept of Agriculture, not the Game and Parks.

 

[GRIZFUR]

Idaho has had its first 2 cases of CWD in domestic elk, both in December of 2024. Two separate facilities, the first case was found in Madison County the second case in Jefferson County. At this point CWD has not been found in wild deer, elk or moose in the region.

Domestic Elk ranches are under the oversight of the Idaho State Department of Agriculture, ISDA.

There are rule changes, currently being considered by our state legislature, that would loosen restrictions and requirements on ranches that are CWD positive.

02.04.19 – RULES GOVERNING DOMESTIC CERVIDAE

DOCKET NO. 02-0419-2401

NOTICE OF RULEMAKING – PROPOSED RULE

These changes are supported by ISDA, the agricultural affairs subcommittee and the ISDA Veterinarian, Scott Leibsle.

The first rule change would no longer require a CWD positive facility to build a second perimeter fence. Previously a ranch with a CWD positive result was required to build a second perimeter fence with a 10-foot offset, to create a buffer between wild and domestic herds. Hopefully containing CWD to the facility. This change was implemented to benefit shooting ranches. They have large, fenced areas and did not want to be forced to build a second perimeter fence.

The second rule change will allow for the transport of CWD infected, exposed and suspect animals to another facility owned by the same ranch. Prior regulation would not allow for any transport of these animals. This change was implemented to benefit the shooting ranches also.

Under current ISDA regulation, domestic cervid ranches in Idaho are required to submit tissue samples for CWD testing on an annual basis. This means that the ranch can hold a tissue sample and submit it for testing December. The CWD positive elk from Jefferson County died in June and tissue samples were not sent in until the end of the year. 6 months passed between the animals death and the positive result for CWD. To be compliant with USDA, which is not required by ISDA, tissue samples must be submitted to a certified lab within 7 days for testing, I believe that Idaho should follow these USDA guidelines.

These rule changes and testing regulations are a threat to Idaho’s wild deer, elk and moose herds.

If there is a domestic elk ranch near where you live or hunt you should be very concerned.

Both ranches imported animal from Canada that were CWD positive according to Scott Leibsle, the ISDA state veterinarian. If it happened at these ranches it could happen at any elk ranch in the state. To be clear the CWD positive cow, that died in June in Jefferson County, was not imported. That cow was born on that farm and had never left the facility until her death. That cow contracted CWD from another elk within the facility.

These rule changes are being put in place to protect the Elk ranchers of the state, fewer than 20. These shooting ranches sell millions of dollars of “hunts” a year. They can afford fencing. The elk from the facility in Jefferson County are owned by the Broadmouth Canyon Ranch.



Please contact your Senators and Representatives to express your opposition to these rule changes.

 

[GRIZFUR]

CO and WY have had CWD for 40 years. The sky isn't falling.

CO and WY have had CWD for 40 years. The sky isn't falling.

A Wyoming mule deer herd is so riddled with CWD it could nearly vanish - WyoFile

Preliminary findings have biologists worried for superinfected deer herd. There’s hope research could help guide chronic wasting disease management — if the public lets it happen.

wyofile.com

 

[Predator_SD]

CWD is nothing but a cash grab for those who stake their ENTIRE careers “researching” it using federal grants.

You can safely move on from worrying about any negative effects on the Elk or Deer populations. Some places it’s been endemic for 50 years with no ill effects

 

[TaperPin]

CWD is nothing but a cash grab for those who stake their ENTIRE careers “researching” it using federal grants.

You can safely move on from worrying about any negative effects on the Elk or Deer populations. Some places it’s been endemic for 50 years with no ill effects

So the deer missing out our back door are just hiding? It sounds cool to blame it on govt waste, like animals with it go on to lead normal happy lives, but you obviously don’t keep up with what is actually happening. Or do you think the tracking collars are what has been killing deer?

 

[Pacific_Fork]

I want to believe that, but also keep reading about buck age class is dispersing due to CWD.

I don’t know what to believe.

 

[IdahoBeav]

What can even be done except to educate on how it spreads and what hunters can do to help reduce the spread?

 

[TaperPin]

What concerns me as much as CWD is how actual field science now has to be displayed at the Junior High level for people to stop long enough to actually comprehend what is being said, and yet there are plenty of “experts” to dispute if these deer actually died. *chuckle*

(hugs to everyone offended by this post)

 

[Andrew12gauge]

What concerns me as much as CWD is how actual field science now has to be displayed at the Junior High level for people to stop long enough to actually comprehend what is being said, and yet there are plenty of “experts” to dispute if these deer actually died. *chuckle*

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It doesn’t say they died from CWD if you put a tracking collar on 10 bucks in unit 39 in Idaho I guarantee you’d have less bucks 10 months into the study than they did and that is not a CWD area


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[TaperPin]

Like magic my censored replies are back.

Oh, I must have to apologize for not knowing someone in here is so sensitive. Do you need a hug, whoever you are? It’s rough enough in this world without people that aren’t gentle with their worlds and it hurts your heart. Was it my poking fun at Junior High level graphs? Are you sensitive about graphs, or is it offensive to Junior High kids? I asked one of the toddlers if the graph was going up or down and he even knew, so maybe it’s sub Junior High. IDK Extra hugs and I’ll buy everyone ice cream.

It doesn’t say they died from CWD if you put a tracking collar on 10 bucks in unit 39 in Idaho I guarantee you’d have less bucks 10 months into the study than they did and that is not a CWD area


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The herd has a 85% survival from year to year prior to CWD, the collared deer after CWD showed had a 50% mortality. There were no animals taken by hunting and it’s primarily agricultural land where winter kill isn’t an issue. If you had read the article you’d know that. Hold on - we’re watching Ms Rachel - she may have a graph that will help shows the difference between 85% and 50%.

 

[IdahoBeav]

Ah yes, trying to poke fun at someone's young age while not realizing that there are two separate ongoing threads on this topic

 

[TaperPin]

Ah yes, trying to poke fun at someone's young age while not realizing that there are two separate ongoing threads on this topic

Do you also need a hug and an ice cream cone?

 

[IdahoBeav]

Do you also need a hug and an ice cream cone?

Easily getting confused and rambling about ice cream reminds me of someone. . .

 

[spike camp]

CO and WY have had CWD for 40 years. The sky isn't falling.

It was first discovered nearly 60 years ago, in CO…which is a blip in terms of time and spead.

What has happened, though, are herds of elk, moose and deer that never had the disease are now inundated and declining in certain areas.

 

[mt terry d]

It was first discovered nearly 60 years ago, in CO…which is a blip in terms of time and spead.

What has happened, though, are herds of elk, moose and deer that never had the disease are now inundated and declining in certain areas.

Could you please post a link to the CWD testing done on moose & elk in CO from, say,
45 years ago? The rate of increase of CWD in those herds would be quite interesting.

 

[spike camp]

Could you please post a link to the CWD testing done on moose & elk in CO from, say,
45 years ago? The rate of increase of CWD in those herds would be quite interesting.

45 years ago?

Look no further than Estes elk herd, moose in FairPlay, mule deer at NCAR or deer and elk on Ft. Carson.

Many more examples I’m sure…just a few that I’m familiar with.