Around Westcliffe, there is a large population of Amish/Mennonites. If you drive through Westcliffe you will see the road signs warning you to watch for horse and buggy's. Now- what I didn't know- is that most if not all of the men of hunting age (and a lot of the female population) bow/muzzie/rifle hunt elk. Most also have access to/own horses. So pretty much every drainage that holds Elk in 86 (and most in 82) will have an Amish camp- Wall tent/horses, etc in it. Now to each there own, and they have every bit as much right to be there as I do. BUT- I have noticed the quality of the hunting go way down due to the increased pressure in hard to access areas. Therefore- I have chosen to move elsewhere.