Ceasar Guerini Magnus O/U and Blaser F3

[DapperDan]

Just curious if anyone has one of these particular guns and are willing to share some thoughts. I think this may be the next gun on my list.

I stopped by a gun store today and fondled quite a few shotguns ranging from the beretta silver pigeon to the EELL, to Rizzini, to Blaser.

The two guns that shoulder the best to me where I felt immediately on target was the Cesar Magnus and the Blaser F3. Both fine guns and well balanced.

Pros and cons I’ve found:

Pros - The Cesar is a beautiful gun, shoulders very well, not too heavy at under 7 pounds, great finish and trigger, quality wood, and price isn’t terrible. From what I’ve read the customer service is great. It comes with a lifetime warranty with 3 free “pit stops” where the gun can be sent in and gone through with a deep clean and inspection.

The Blaser is almost perfectly balanced to me, locks on target and swings incredible well. Feels to be a robust gun that can surely take some abuse. Trigger quality is fine as well. It would serve well if trap or skeet is also part of the shooting plan. The barrel selector is in front of the trigger which makes swapping barrels while on target extremely fast.

Cons- the Cesar comes with engraved false side plates. Not sure if this is or can be an issue down the road seeing as I read somewhere that it can increase odds of stock cracking. It also seems that if you read long enough you find people that say the locking feature on the Cesar is inferior.

The Blaser is a little heavier than the Magnus with a longer barrel at 4” more than the Cesar. The fit and finish on the F3 are very plain unless you spend more to get any engraving. At that price point I can buy 2 Ceasars. lol

I did like the look and feel of one of the Rizzinis and the EELL I held but it didn’t shoulder quite like the Magnus although the balance and weight were nice.

Am I missing anything? Over thinking anything? My plan would be occasional skeet and upland game. So honestly, I’m thinking more of a field gun vs a sporting gun.

My next options would be 20 or 28 gauge. Leaning more towards 20 gauge since I’m not the worlds best shot and cripples are never fun for anyone other than the dog. lol. I still don’t know how I’d feel about a 28 gauge on pheasants.


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[Reburn]

I ended up going with a blaser f16 sporting over an f3 in 12ga. I liked the ultra clean look of the f16 better and loved the 3750 at the time cost better. I never considered adding barrels to the f16 and that isnt an option. So if you want multiple barrels you have to do a f3. At 8 lbs its fine to carry some but I wouldnt want to climb hills with it. Some of the f3's can get pretty heavy. For a comp gun you want them heavy. For a field gun not so much.

Then I got a Caesar Guerini magnus light with 20, 28 barrels and then sent it back in to Caesar to have 410 barrels fitted. I really only hunt with 20's or smaller at this point unless its some kind of water fowl, cranes, goose etc. Early pheasant that are flying close at 20ish yards and in I will use 28ga all day. 410 I save for pen raised quail that late season you have to kick to fly.

Point to be made though is caesar 20ga weighs 5.75 lbs and my beretta xplor a400 20ga weights 5.76.

My 12's f16 weights 7.96 and my super black eagle 3 is 7.46.

My memory is a bit foggy but I think caesar would do a 12/20 combo but not a 12/20/28 combo. The action size for a 12 can be made for a 20 to fit but a 12 is much to large for a 28 or 410. Thats how I ended up with one of each. Plus I'm a shotgunwhore so I didnt really need a reason to buy multiple guns.

I would ask the shop you are shopping at if they do demo days with a sporting clays club. Most guys with these levels of guns are quite generous with letting people try them. At the club I go to sometimes there maybe 250k of guns sitting on the rack.

 

[NSI]

I’ve had the BA Rizzini Artemis (functionally identical to the false side plated CG Magnus) for a decade. I bought it with my first bonus and it’s been a faithful companion in all manner of clay sports and field hunting. Afraid I don’t know much about the Blaser other than it’s substantially less popular in the field here in the states (though plenty prevalent and trap and field games).

I’m sure you can’t go too wrong on this, but I’d buy my Artemis (Magnus) again.

-J

 

[mainbeam pursuit2]

Was out shooting sporting clays, shot with a guy who was shooting a Blaser. He let me shoot the gun at a few stations. Not sure what model it was, very nice gun, that shot great. When you get into that price level of shotguns I think they're all nice. Fit is the most important thing in my experience.

 

[DapperDan]

I ended up going with a blaser f16 sporting over an f3 in 12ga. I liked the ultra clean look of the f16 better and loved the 3750 at the time cost better. I never considered adding barrels to the f16 and that isnt an option. So if you want multiple barrels you have to do a f3. At 8 lbs its fine to carry some but I wouldnt want to climb hills with it. Some of the f3's can get pretty heavy. For a comp gun you want them heavy. For a field gun not so much.

Then I got a Caesar Guerini magnus light with 20, 28 barrels and then sent it back in to Caesar to have 410 barrels fitted. I really only hunt with 20's or smaller at this point unless its some kind of water fowl, cranes, goose etc. Early pheasant that are flying close at 20ish yards and in I will use 28ga all day. 410 I save for pen raised quail that late season you have to kick to fly.

Point to be made though is caesar 20ga weighs 5.75 lbs and my beretta xplor a400 20ga weights 5.76.

My 12's f16 weights 7.96 and my super black eagle 3 is 7.46.

My memory is a bit foggy but I think caesar would do a 12/20 combo but not a 12/20/28 combo. The action size for a 12 can be made for a 20 to fit but a 12 is much to large for a 28 or 410. Thats how I ended up with one of each. Plus I'm a shotgunwhore so I didnt really need a reason to buy multiple guns.

I would ask the shop you are shopping at if they do demo days with a sporting clays club. Most guys with these levels of guns are quite generous with letting people try them. At the club I go to sometimes there maybe 250k of guns sitting on the rack.

I have a 12 gauge in a Benelli nova and sbeii. I surely don’t need another 12. I know the Magnus does come in a 20/28 combo. And even if I get a 20 I can send it back for a fitted 28 gauge.

What’s your experience shooting a 28 gauge on upland bs a 20? Would you say that a 28 gauge is sufficient tire so than a 20 other than on birds at longer ranges? I live in Houston Texas so I don’t have a lot of opportunities to upland hunt. It is something I’d like to try and do more of and have a friend that does it often so he’s trying to get me into it.

Also, what is your experience shooting a 7 pound field gun vs the Magnus light at 5.5 pounds. Does it swing as smooth? Recoil more or less? Follow through the shot as cleanly and easily?


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[Dos XX]

I shoot 5.75 and 6 lb light guns fine in the field. For trap, I shoot 8 or 9 lb guns, including a CG Summit o/u.

I have 2 Beretta 686's. 1 in 20 and 1 in 28. The 28 is actually a few ounces heavier than the 20. I have shot a lot of preserve and quite a few wild pheasants over dogs with the 28.

My 20 is an Onyx with black action and barrels with really nice, upgraded wood. I got it from Etchens some years ago. It is my favorite shotgun for bird hunting. It weighs right at 6 lbs.

I also have a CZ Bobwhite s x s in 28. I think it weighs under 6 lbs. I have killed a ton of birds with it, pheasant and quail.

 

[Reburn]

I have a 12 gauge in a Benelli nova and sbeii. I surely don’t need another 12. I know the Magnus does come in a 20/28 combo. And even if I get a 20 I can send it back for a fitted 28 gauge.

What’s your experience shooting a 28 gauge on upland bs a 20? Would you say that a 28 gauge is sufficient tire so than a 20 other than on birds at longer ranges? I live in Houston Texas so I don’t have a lot of opportunities to upland hunt. It is something I’d like to try and do more of and have a friend that does it often so he’s trying to get me into it.

Also, what is your experience shooting a 7 pound field gun vs the Magnus light at 5.5 pounds. Does it swing as smooth? Recoil more or less? Follow through the shot as cleanly and easily?


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If I'm sitting a dove field I will generally use a 20 as the shots could be short or long.

Chukkar, huns sharptails or other wild birds in the west I'm traveling far and I'm serious as hell and shooting a 12. In South Africa 12's were compltely nessecary for guinea fowl. The franklins were here and there mixed in.

Pheasants I'll start 20 and if they are flushing close Ill switch to 28. I dont make a distinction between preserve and wild. Half the preserve birds I have shot lacked nose piercings.

Planted quail 28 or 410. There generally arent enough wild quail anywhere to speak about unless you have a actual lease. then I might up to a 12 if they are flying at 40 yards to start.

I love my magnus light and shoot it very well. I sustained lead vs swing through. It recoils quite a bit vs a 7 lb gun and can be a bit snappy. I wouldnt want to shoot half a case a day through the 20ga barrels. The 28ga barrels are pleasant. I think a 6-7lb gun is butter zone for a field gun. I went lighter but its more a toy. A really expensive really light toy. I have as many shotguns a some women have purses.

 

[Reburn]

I shoot 5.75 and 6 lb light guns fine in the field. For trap, I shoot 8 or 9 lb guns, including a CG Summit o/u.

I have 2 Beretta 686's. 1 in 20 and 1 in 28. The 28 is actually a few ounces heavier than the 20. I have shot a lot of preserve and quite a few wild pheasants over dogs with the 28.

My 20 is an Onyx with black action and barrels with really nice, upgraded wood. I got it from Etchens some years ago. It is my favorite shotgun for bird hunting. It weighs right at 6 lbs.

I also have a CZ Bobwhite s x s in 28. I think it weighs under 6 lbs. I have killed a ton of birds with it, pheasant and quail.

Nice collection.
I assume you mean a berretta Onxy pro. One of my favorite guns I never bought. I long for one.

 

[Dos XX]

Nice collection.
I assume you mean a berretta Onxy pro. One of my favorite guns I never bought. I long for one.

Yes, the Onyx Pro. My favorite field gun. Sometimes I wonder why I have the other ones. That gun and my 1980's 870 express would really be all I ever need. I don't let that stop me from buying more, though.

 

[DapperDan]

If I'm sitting a dove field I will generally use a 20 as the shots could be short or long.

Chukkar, huns sharptails or other wild birds in the west I'm traveling far and I'm serious as hell and shooting a 12. In South Africa 12's were compltely nessecary for guinea fowl. The franklins were here and there mixed in.

Pheasants I'll start 20 and if they are flushing close Ill switch to 28. I dont make a distinction between preserve and wild. Half the preserve birds I have shot lacked nose piercings.

Planted quail 28 or 410. There generally arent enough wild quail anywhere to speak about unless you have a actual lease. then I might up to a 12 if they are flying at 40 yards to start.

I love my magnus light and shoot it very well. I sustained lead vs swing through. It recoils quite a bit vs a 7 lb gun and can be a bit snappy. I wouldnt want to shoot half a case a day through the 20ga barrels. The 28ga barrels are pleasant. I think a 6-7lb gun is butter zone for a field gun. I went lighter but its more a toy. A really expensive really light toy. I have as many shotguns a some women have purses.

I really appreciate all of that feedback!


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