Carry more in your pack or break laws for survival?

[Dr.Spaniel]

Kinda.

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It’s getting hot in here! Gotta take off my all natural merino rain jacket.

 

[CorbLand]

Kinda.

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You have a lot more hair than I envisioned.

 

[fwafwow]

 

[DB29]

 

[BLJ]

So you are saying, in all seriousness. You would loose you life to support not starting a fire?

As you lay in the woods, alone, freezing to death, knowing your family may never even have the closure of finding your corpse.

As you draw your last breath you will take solace in knowing you at least upheld the law?

This would be my questions as well.

 

[CamoPirate]

Darwin's got an award for you.

 

[Hot_tub_josh]

I feel like reasonable people should be able to use their best judgement on when some laws should be obeyed. If it is truly a survival situation and nobody else would be harmed by doing so, it would be foolish not to break a rule.

 

[ozyclint]

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"Remember, violence is never the right choice "- school teachers

 

[Mr. October]

How much does your "fire stuff" weigh that you are putting this much thought into shuffling gear versus just leaving that stuff in your pack?

This was my thought. My fire starting stuff weighs all of a couple ounces and is buried in the bottom of my pack most of the time. I don't think I'd be fishing it out to leave home because there was a fire ban. And if push came to shove that I was somehow about to die from hypothermia and the only resolution was building a fire in a fire ban than I'm building a fire.

 

[Will_m]

I break laws for far more trivial things than survival. Is this a serious question?

 

[streetdoctor]

I'd start a fire and roast a bald eagle if it meant keeping my family alive in a survival situation.

This made me laugh out loud

 

[Pulleye16]

First off, you all know the OP is full of carp, right? This is the most ridiculous thing I’ve read. lol.

Life or death and you wouldn’t stay a fire to save tour life cause it’s illegal???? LMAO.

Fun fact, shooting a human is also illegal…but if your life is in imminent danger, you can shoot them. Well, I guess you’d prefer to let your kids grow up without a father and widow your wife, but you do you.

 

[Yooper]

 

[robtattoo]

Federal law > State law.

State law > local law.

My life > any law you can think of.

 

[Eleven]

In a survival situation the only laws for me are the laws of physics.

 

[robtattoo]

"Remember, violence is never the right choice "- school teachers

Ahhh...... but it's always 'a' choice.


I can't help but think that OP has never been close to an actually dangerous situation.

 

[long hunter]

When the shit hits the fan all bets are off, gotta do what ones gotta do,yes sir your honor I done that but that’s why I am here to talk to you .

 

[wyosam]

I tend to agree. Part of what makes the wild wild is consequences. Want to be able to count on helicopter evacuation when you get hurt? Stay out of Wikderness areas, because that seems pretty mechanized to me. I can’t count how many times I’ve heard “I had to go in with my truck/ATV and retrieve the elk because a storm was coming”. That’s BS, plan better. Can’t have a fire to get warm and dry? Well, better make sure you don’t get cold and wet. Requires honesty with yourself about your capabilities. I can’t count do what I could 10 years ago, so I take that into account with my planning and on the ground in the field. The age of the SOS button has taken away too much self reliance and responsibility for one’s own actions. I have an Inreach, which I sometimes even remember to bring. Never liked the idea, but like many piece of mind for family makes it worth owning. I like to include it in my decision making in the field. Is it clouding my judgment? Would I make this choice without it, knowing that if I screw up I’m 100% on my own to deal with the consequences and either self extract or die cold and alone? Would be interesting (to me anyway) to see thoughts on this topic of soloists vs those who perceive safety in numbers in the outdoors.


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[Dr.Spaniel]

Sigh. I also won’t sos or heli evac because I didn’t plan on it.

 

[EastHumboldt]

Stumblinhorse is aloneguy. He’s tuned up his manners a bit so as not to get banned. Thank God for posters like them. Without them this place would be a boring pile of useful information. While I never have started a dumpster fire, I do find them morbidly fascinating.

I have a lighter in my pocket this very second. I’m a little chilly and thinking about breaking up the chair I’m sitting on for kindling, then throwing the dining room table in once it gets going good. Only thing stopping me is it’s illegal, and my wife….