Broadhead question

[AlwaysChasinTailNHorns]

I run a 150g broadhead and was wanting to know if anyone had any experience with the micro Hades by Grim reaper? They make a 4 blade cut on contact head in 150g and I’ve heard this head flys really well from a lot of compound shooters, I know it’s not your usual trad head but I do like the bevel angle on the tip and the sharpness of the tip. From research this head is scary sharp, small ferrule leading to good flight, and the 4 blades gives it a lot of cutting surface. Just throwing it out and wanted to know if anyone has any info or experience with it, thanks.

 

[bowhuntercoop]

That’s Joel Turners go to head. They do well outta stick bows.

 

[AlwaysChasinTailNHorns]

That’s Joel Turners go to head. They do well outta stick bows.

Interesting! I’ll have to see if I can find some information of him speaking about the head out of his setup.

 

[Beendare]

I don't give much weight to celebrity endorsements....Its telling that a couple of them endorse HECS. Hey, I get it they need to feed their family.

That micro hades is a chisel point, not a COC. A Cut on contact head has a leading edge blade and it makes a difference as just about every guy that actually kills stuff with a trad bow will tell you. Plus those are poor blade angles for a trad bow- I wouldn't shoot it.

3 Rivers used to have the video of Dale Karcher pushing the different heads through a hide. He showed how a chisel point has much more resistance vs a COC....worth a look.

 

[cck311]

I just looked up this head and I can't say that it looks like a very good traditional head. I'm sure it can work since I sometimes see guys reporting success with Thunderheads and Muzzys from their stick bows. When it comes to using bows with such limited energy, I wouldn't want to handicap myself with a head that doesn't get the absolute most out of the bows energy when there are plenty of long, narrow true cut on contact head to choose from. I'm in the process of putting a razors edge on my Magnus stinger 2 blades for Utah's elk opener this Saturday.

 

[AlwaysChasinTailNHorns]

I don't give much weight to celebrity endorsements....Its telling that a couple of them endorse HECS. Hey, I get it they need to feed their family.

That micro hades is a chisel point, not a COC. A Cut on contact head has a leading edge blade and it makes a difference as just about every guy that actually kills stuff with a trad bow will tell you. Plus those are poor blade angles for a trad bow- I wouldn't shoot it.

3 Rivers used to have the video of Dale Karcher pushing the different heads through a hide. He showed how a chisel point has much more resistance vs a COC....worth a look.

I appreciate the response! I currently shoot Wasps traditional sharpshooters which is a true COC head which has done some damage for me out of my 55# Bushmen but just wanted to see your guys opinions of this head and I really do appreciate the feedback I didn’t have much info on it and I’ve never strayed away from the norm of trad heads. (Easy, I love my HECS lol…seriously though I’ve killed more turkeys in close trad range nowadays with it on but it might be luck who knows haha)

 

[AlwaysChasinTailNHorns]

I just looked up this head and I can't say that it looks like a very good traditional head. I'm sure it can work since I sometimes see guys reporting success with Thunderheads and Muzzys from their stick bows. When it comes to using bows with such limited energy, I wouldn't want to handicap myself with a head that doesn't get the absolute most out of the bows energy when there are plenty of long, narrow true cut on contact head to choose from. I'm in the process of putting a razors edge on my Magnus stinger 2 blades for Utah's elk opener this Saturday.

Thanks for the feedback I really appreciate it! I agree I’m gonna stick with my current heads which are the Wasp Sharpshooter traditionals in 150g which I like a lot. Just wanted to see what you guys think considering I don’t know anyone who shoots a head like the Hades.

 

[Beendare]

I have some pictures somewhere of chopped hair on the entrance hole of elk from one of the short chisel heads. Not good. There is no doubt they plow their way in....vs the slipping in of a more tapered COC design.

Now, is it splitting hairs? [did you see what I did there, grin]
Does it really matter? I doubt it matters much with an avg compounds energy....but it will with a trad bow.

I know KE and MO are all the rage for measuring a bow energy....all I know is when I pull my compound arrows in a 3D target they are buried in there while my recurve arrows pull easy. My 60# compound has to have double or triple the penetrating energy of my recurve making BH selection less of a factor.

 

[AlwaysChasinTailNHorns]

I have some pictures somewhere of chopped hair on the entrance hole of elk from one of the short chisel heads. Not good. There is no doubt they plow their way in....vs the slipping in of a more tapered COC design.

Now, is it splitting hairs? [did you see what I did there, grin]
Does it really matter? I doubt it matters much with an avg compounds energy....but it will with a trad bow.

I know KE and MO are all the rage for measuring a bow energy....all I know is when I pull my compound arrows in a 3D target they are buried in there while my recurve arrows pull easy. My 60# compound has to have double or triple the penetrating energy of my recurve making BH selection less of a factor.

Yeah I totally agree! Good points made there. I’ll stick with my COC heads.

 

[bowhuntercoop]

Maybe I’m wrong, I could have sworn Joel told me that’s what he shot, I know it’s a grim reaper fixed blade for 100 percent, you’re right though that head doesn’t scream trad at all.

 

[cck311]

I've done a similar experiment to what Beendare was explaining was done by Dale at 3rivers. Took an old pair of jeans I wasn't wearing anymore and pushed arrows tipped with broadheads through them. The amount of force it takes to push a short, chisel tipped fixed blade through or worse yet a Rage, compared to a Magnus Stinger is pretty eye opening. You barely have to push to get the Magnus through. I had to wonder if I was even going to be able to get the Rage through!

 

[North Idaho Stickbow]

I have a buddy here that kills all kinds of stuff with his recurve using a QAD Exodus, which is a chisel point. I wouldn’t do it (what I use works just fine for me), but It seems to be working well for him.