Bow Gurus please advise>>>Tuning Elite Varos

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Bow is at 61lbs, shooting 28.5in draw with 350 black eagle rampage arrows, 28.5 nock valley to end of insert, 100gr tips. Rest is a Hamskea Everest. Had my bow set up from shop when I bought it. They used a laser to set up rest and sight and all. no paper tune or anything. guy has been doing it for 40 years and swears it works up and down. anyway, been shooting it and I hit where i'm aiming out to 40 somewhat consistently but notice my arrows are kicking way to the left most of the time. I play with my grip and sometimes can see perfect arrow flight. anyway, i rigged up some paper and shot at 5-6 ft. wouldn't you know it i have a hard tail right tear. if i torque the shit out of the grip it shoots perfect bullets. but thats putting undue strain on the inside of my wrist and thumb and you clearly see the string is coming off the cams not centered. how it shoots bullets idk. I have a lot of faith in the guy and trust him but just wondering if I should take it back to him to adjust or find someone else?? maybe I'm doing something wrong, but I don't think so.

For shits and grins, I lowered my draw length to 28 and still hard right tear. And I truly feel thats too short as I have to either A bend my elbow or B feel like I'm tilting my head way forward.
 
I'm wondering if I shouldn't try a 400 spine arrow before adjusting anything? All the charts suggest I'm on the edge or just into the 350 area being that my draw is 28.5
 
I don't care what anyone says, you cant tune a bow with a laser. It just gives you a starting point. I would be looking hard for vane contact somewhere on the rest or cables. Spray some foot powder on it to see if theres contact or lipstick on the vanes. Also make sure all the vanes are oriented exactly the same on each arrow.
 
I don't care what anyone says, you cant tune a bow with a laser. It just gives you a starting point. I would be looking hard for vane contact somewhere on the rest or cables. Spray some foot powder on it to see if theres contact or lipstick on the vanes. Also make sure all the vanes are oriented exactly the same on each arrow.
Thanks, I will check that tomorrow. That is something I thought about a few weeks ago but forgot and kinda ruled it out mentally. but yeah, maybe it's that easy.
 
I hate reading posts like this. You can adjust the limb pockets on that bow yourself without a press to help correct the tail right tear. Here is a video showing how the Elite tuning system works.


This only works if your cam timing is set correctly. Draw length is correct. No grip torque. Correct arrow spine. Well you get the point. This should be something your local shop should have helped you with at the time of purchase.
 
I don't care what anyone says, you cant tune a bow with a laser. It just gives you a starting point. I would be looking hard for vane contact somewhere on the rest or cables. Spray some foot powder on it to see if theres contact or lipstick on the vanes. Also make sure all the vanes are oriented exactly the same on each arrow.

100% agree with this. Also, nobody can paper tune your bow for you; you have to do it yourself with your bio-mechanics and your grip.

Unless your tear is pretty big, use your SET system to dial it in. If you are more than half an inch I'd probably check to make sure the rest is set to wherever your bow recommends center shot to be at.
 
Using the SET system should take all of 2 minutes. The elite bows like a 7/8"+ center shot. How big is the tear?
Well gripping the bow like I always have, not cranking my hand back or out torqueing it, it looks like probably 1.5 inch tear. The more I torque it the tear comes back towards a bullet hole.
 
Well gripping the bow like I always have, not cranking my hand back or out torqueing it, it looks like probably 1.5 inch tear. The more I torque it the tear comes back towards a bullet hole.
You should be able to get that out with SET, just follow the directions on the sticker and it'll probably take 3/4+ of a turn top and bottom.
 
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