Born primitive pack

I hope they come out with a zipper that doesn’t get killed by dust. Then maybe the rest of the industry will follow suit
 
What kind internal thoughts are folks having about the upcoming release of a born primitive pack?
Do you have enough faith and confidence in Aron to produce something new/different that will compete?
Anyone seen any prototype pictures or any spec info?

Reminds me I need to call Snyder. Said he was going to send me one to test out.
 
what podcast was it?
The last one he did. I took it as a compliment to Steve saying Steve set the bar and he thinks he beat it.

Not sure how innovative packs can really get until they become an exoskeleton and power my ass plus 40lbs up the mountain and have a 60 mile range before needing to recharged.

But maybe it will push up the K4X time lines. Be a win win for consumers
 
The last one he did. I took it as a compliment to Steve saying Steve set the bar and he thinks he beat it.

Not sure how innovative packs can really get until they become an exoskeleton and power my ass plus 40lbs up the mountain and have a 60 mile range before needing to recharged.

But maybe it will push up the K4X time lines. Be a win win for consumers
I’m really living under a rock, was it a Born Primative episode?
 
My comment got removed?
I didn't think it was out of line.
Everything came from the podcast.
 
After listening to him talk about it, I firmly believe that it will bring something different to the industry. I agree with a lot of you saying that it’s all marketing and don’t disagree but considering the experience Aaron has, and him talking about this pack having a couple different patents with vague descriptions of problems being fixed, I think it along with the k4 will be on top. Other than this it seems everything has become maxed out and they all just use cool words and pictures to sell new bows, arrows, guns, clothing… hate that people have become more worried about spending money towards the newest fads rather than spending money towards conservation or going on hunts. That’s my 2 cents
 
Don’t see it being a hit.
I like exos model,focus on one main product.
Born has come out with everything,some of there stuff is so cheesy I’m not sure who’s designing it.Some stuff looks good.
 
the stone glacier guy? is he collaborating with Aron now? I thought I saw somewhere him and a lot of others had moved on from SG so curious what he does next as stone glacier packs were always my favorite
No Gamache, but I wouldn’t be suprised if Racicot is on an advisory board for Born Primitive
 
BP is flush with cash and growing quickly. Racicot Would be a great person to bring on to advisory board, he built SG via packs and technical clothing…….and sold.

Who wouldn’t want him as a advisory consultant
You realize Kurt is still involved with SG ya?

But agreed. If I wanted to pick a mountain hunters brain, you would be hard pressed to find a better guy than Kurt.
 
You realize Kurt is still involved with SG ya?

But agreed. If I wanted to pick a mountain hunters brain, you would be hard pressed to find a better guy than Kurt.
Oops no, ya I thought he was done and retired, especially since SG seems to be stale right now, darn’t
 
Interesting podcast but I’m more interested in those boots than the pack.
Me too, though I’m skeptical, I’m also interested. If they build a zero drop that is and stays waterproof equivalent to crispi, I will be all in, but historically, very few boots stay dry for even a season around here, but I hope they pull it off

The pack is not that intriguing to me because I’m very happy with exo, and I like supporting companies like them
 
Me too, though I’m skeptical, I’m also interested. If they build a zero drop that is and stays waterproof equivalent to crispi, I will be all in, but historically, very few boots stay dry for even a season around here, but I hope they pull it off

The pack is not that intriguing to me because I’m very happy with exo, and I like supporting companies like them
I’m sure they could surprise us with the pack design but footwear is my current gear battle. Sounds like they are making what I feel has been nonexistent in the market. Inserts are important but we need to stop treating them as a substitute for improperly shaped toe boxes and beating the drum for excessive rigidity. They talked as if it will be a Nero drop, wide toe box with the ruggedness and semi stiffness of a light European hiker.

Enough of me derailing, I can think of several highlights from the top pack offerings and would like to see them all in one package. Doubtful that my preference aligns with the majority of the user base though. Curious if they will use a lighter waterproof fabric similar to what Seek has been using. SG simplicity of adjustments and weight, SO type fabrics (if quiet enough), keep with the buckles that Kifaru uses and not some one off crap, Kuiu layout except give us a removable lid that’s sold separately. Frame wise if they can give articulation without compromising stability, again don’t make adjusting it feel like basket weaving after a six pack. Another thing that is always a compromise is a waist belt that does it’s job without feeling like a neck brace for your waist.
 
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