BHA seems “all-in” with Biden

[brocksw]

CA BHA Opposes Proposed Ban on Bear Hunting

Backcountry Hunters & Anglers (BHA), the voice for our wild public lands, waters, and wildlife, urges California legislators to oppose Senate Bill 252, which would ban black bear hunting in the state. For more than 100 years, the North American Model of Wildlife Conservation and the Public...

www.backcountryhunters.org

Surprised me but is good to see.

New Jersey last October

Take action to preserve New Jersey bear hunt

Backcountry Hunters & Anglers is the voice for our wild public lands, waters and wildlife.

www.backcountryhunters.org

NJ BHA calls for restoration of bear hunt, supports North American Model of Conservation

The ban on bear hunting on New Jersey public lands not only fails to uphold the robust system of science-based wildlife management in America, it also infringes on the rich heritage of public land hunting in New Jersey.

www.backcountryhunters.org

 

[Billinsd]

Selling access to or consumption of wildlife to the highest bidder.

Access to private property or access through private property to public land, or access to private property to hunt "exotic animals" that aren't controlled or managed by individual states?

 

[Billinsd]

if you’re in South Dakota, peruse your last (or current) session....

I'm in San Diego County

 

[Billinsd]

Ummm well, ahhhh, ummmm they don't have a position on THAT type of hunting.

I'd like to know.

 

[Hoodie]

I'm in San Diego County

God help you. You don´t hunt D16 do you? That´s a tough unit.

 

[HighUintas]

Where can I find the facts that would explain why BHA isn't actually advocating for hunters and shouldn't have our support? I'm not saying it's not true, but I don't want to sift through 24 pages of stuff to find things I'll have to go fact check.

 

[wind gypsy]

Access to private property or access through private property to public land, or access to private property to hunt "exotic animals" that aren't controlled or managed by individual states?

I didn't mean access in a land access manner but access to the rights/opportunity to use or kill wildlife.

 

[Hoodie]

Where can I find the facts that would explain why BHA isn't actually advocating for hunters and shouldn't have our support? I'm not saying it's not true, but I don't want to sift through 24 pages of stuff to find things I'll have to go fact check.

Itś gonna be tough to boil it down for you.

I´d honestly recommend you look at what your state´s chapter has done and base your decisions off that.

In Oregon, I´ve benefitted enough personally to justify my annual dues thus far.

I would say, despite a lot of horseshit on both end of the debate, it´s probably worth reading through the thread to formulate an opinion. Plenty of people who have been members have made strong arguments for supporting other organizations. Plenty of BHA members have made strong arguments in the organization´s defense.

*Edited for being a dumbass with bad facts.

 

[204guy]

CA BHA Opposes Proposed Ban on Bear Hunting

Backcountry Hunters & Anglers (BHA), the voice for our wild public lands, waters, and wildlife, urges California legislators to oppose Senate Bill 252, which would ban black bear hunting in the state. For more than 100 years, the North American Model of Wildlife Conservation and the Public...

www.backcountryhunters.org

Surprised me but is good to see.

That is good to see.

CA BHA Opposes Proposed Ban on Bear Hunting

Backcountry Hunters & Anglers (BHA), the voice for our wild public lands, waters, and wildlife, urges California legislators to oppose Senate Bill 252, which would ban black bear hunting in the state. For more than 100 years, the North American Model of Wildlife Conservation and the Public...

www.backcountryhunters.org

Surprised me but is good to see.

It is good to see. The fact you have to qualify it with "surprised", is not good though. Still step in the right direction, credit due where due.

 

[wind gypsy]

What's privatization of wildlife mean?

For example, the red wave in MT didn't waste time with this: https://www.rokslide.com/forums/threads/if-youre-wanting-to-come-hunt-in-montana.204621/
I would consider that bad for any sportsman not looking to buy their way to more opportunity through outfitters.

 

[brocksw]

Itś gonna be tough to boil it down for you.

A good example of why would be Colorado´s BHA chapter working in conjunction with the Humane Society to end spring bear hunting in 2013, while just yesterday California´s chapter came out with a statement against a bill sponsored by the Humane Society to ban all bear hunting in California.

I could be wrong,but I thought the bear ban took place in the early 90s....like a decade before BHA was even formed. Perhaps I'm wrong or missing something. But I had it in my head the CO bear referendum was in like 92.

 

[Hoodie]

I could be wrong,but I thought the bear ban took place in the early 90s....like a decade before BHA was even formed. Perhaps I'm wrong or missing something. But I had it in my head the CO bear referendum was in like 92.

You are correct sir, I shall amend my statement.

 

[Hoodie]

Further fact checking illustrates that not only was I wrong on the timeline, I was wrong about BHA being involved in the Colorado ban at all.

BHA didn´t exist at the time of the CO ban.

Apparently the source of that confusion is that Dave Petersen was vocal in his support of the spring bear/hound hunting ban at the time it occurred, and he later became BHA´s Vice Chair of Conservation. Not at all the same thing as BHA being directly involved.

That´s my bad for poor fact checking.

 

[mtwarden]

^ appreciate you digging into it more thoroughly, good to know

 

[Billinsd]

God help you. You don´t hunt D16 do you? That´s a tough unit.

I have in the past for deer, archery and rifle; mountain Quail (San Diego is probably best place in the country!), Valley Quail, Turkey, and wild pigs before they were pretty much wiped out. Yes D16 is tough, because of the damn Chaparral on public land, hunter pressure and drought. I'm a Rockstar hunter once I leave the county. Usually I come home empty handed in SD county.

 

[Hoodie]

I have in the past for deer, archery and rifle; mountain Quail (San Diego is probably best place in the country!), Valley Quail, Turkey, and wild pigs before they were pretty much wiped out. Yes D16 is tough, because of the damn Chaparral on public land, hunter pressure and draught. I'm a Rockstar hunter once I leave the county. Usually I come home empty handed in SD county.

My first two seasons of mule deer hunting were down there. It kicked my ass. I would say it probably gave me an unrealistic perception of how difficult it is to kill a forked horn on public land.

I think about going back sometimes for revenge, but I always talk myself out of it. Pretty country though, especially further east in the unit.

 

[Billinsd]

I think about going back sometimes for revenge, but I always talk myself out it. Pretty country though, especially further east in the unit.

My best and last buck in D16, in 2009, an old mature buck. I'm as proud of this buck as my 350 Bull Elk in Utah. I killed this buck about 25 miles east of the city of San Diego on public land. It was the most rugged, boulder hopping, thick brush hunt of my entire life to date!!! About 6 miles from the paved road and my civic!! I was a real bubba too!!!

 

[Hoodie]

My best and last buck in D16, in 2009, an old mature buck. I'm as proud of this buck as my 350 Bull Elk in Utah. I killed this buck about 25 miles east of the city of San Diego on public land. It was the most rugged, boulder hopping, thick brush hunt of my entire life to date!!! About 6 miles from the paved road and my civic!! I was a real bubba too!!!

Thatś a sweet buck for D16 man. I think in probably two weeks of backpacking hunting across two seasons out there I laid eyes on maybe two legal bucks. Never one anywhere near as old as that guy.

A San Diego buck bigger than a forky is a rare thing indeed. I´d be proud of that one too.

 

[d_rek]

I´d honestly recommend you look at what your state´s chapter has done and base your decisions off that.

The BHA chapter in Michigan basically went dark in early 2020. There were some really active members who were communicating frequently years prior and now the only alerts I get are from the national email. Even prior to that I had heard some grumblings that nat'l leadership was getting very cozy with democratic lawmakers. I did not end up renewing my membership for 2021.

 

[accountantsanonymous]

So, did anyone actually read the article that the screen cap is displaying? Serious question....