I got a hornady classic autocharge kit, hornady tumbler, rcbs case trimmer, and a hornady digital caliper to start with. The digital caliper was junk, I switched to analog which has been fine. I use both hornady and rcbs and one lee die sets which seem to all work fine. I added a lyman case prep center which I like as I really disliked using the manual inside and outside chamfer tools. I've used this setup to develop moa loads for a number of rifles and sub 1/2 moa loads in my more accurate rifles. I have not gotten the very low es and sd numbers that I've seen others talking about online though. The hornady autoload works ok, but it makes me curious if it may be part of the es/sd when I see a 0.1 grain overage reading slip back to the target charge weight, I don't have another scale to confirm the weights, the calibration weights read true. Could a combination of other things too, IDK. Good luck.