Best breed for big game hunting companion.

[RockAndSage]

Grok just compiles available data

Garbage in, garbage out.

No matter how many "facts" someone comes up with, it is never in your interest to disarm.

 

[IronNoggin]

You are welcome to bring your bear attractant with you.

I agree with him in that a lot of that is hogwash.

Amaruq (aka The Boogyman) was actual hell on wheels with any bear we ran into.
He carved right up over a dozen that did not back off fast enough, and treed a hell of a lot more that had the sense to get away from him as fast as possible.
Left chunks of those that did not flee scattered all over - repeatedly.

Now try & convince me that my real world experience in this matter does not matter...

 

[RockAndSage]

* Moron leaves his dogfood out, attracts bears.
* Agenda-driven clever morons latch onto incident to claim dogs attract bears, as part of their agenda to further enshrine bears as protected, sanctified species
* Agenda-driven morons commission "studies" structured to cherry-pick "facts" to establish "truth"
* "facts" and "truth" spread across the interwebnetz.
* AI models get trained on these "facts" and "truth" and regurgitate it with an enhanced veneer of authority.
* Gullible people believe this propaganda as part of their need to feel smart, and try to force how smart they are on internet forums by preaching "truth" and "facts" that fundamentally go against common sense so that people commit suicide-by-disarmament.

Miss me with this moronic $h*t.

Dogs are your best friend, in the woods too.

 

[grfox92]

Grok says.

Dogs in bear country (whether black bears or grizzlies) are a bad idea for several interconnected reasons. Wildlife biologists, park rangers, and search-and-rescue teams consistently advise against bringing dogs into areas with high bear activity. Here’s why:

1. Dogs trigger a predator/prey chase response in bears
Bears (especially grizzlies) see a running, barking dog as either prey or a threat. Dogs often harass or chase bears, then run back to their owner with an angry bear in tow. This is the #1 way people get mauled when they have a dog with them.

2. Most dogs cannot actually fight or deter a bear
Despite what some owners think, even large, “protective” breeds are usually killed or severely injured in seconds by a bear. The dog almost always flees back to the owner, bringing the bear with it.

3. Bear spray and firearms are less effective when a dog is involved
When a dog is escalating the situation, you often don’t have time to deploy bear spray properly or aim a firearm safely. Many documented maulings happened because the owner was trying to control or protect the dog instead of focusing on the bear.

4. Dogs attract bears to campsites
Bears are drawn to dog food, dog feces, and even the smell of the dog itself. There are multiple cases of bears entering camps at night specifically because a dog was tied up or sleeping in the tent.

5. Leashed dogs can still cause problems
A leashed dog can lunge and bark, provoking a defensive bear from 50–100 yards away. Off-leash dogs are even worse because they range far ahead and encounter bears before you know anything is wrong.

6. Real-world data backs this up
- In Yellowstone National Park, dogs have been involved in a disproportionate number of bear–human conflicts when they’re allowed (they’re now banned on virtually all trails).
- Glacier National Park explicitly states: “Dogs often initiate a negative encounter with a bear that leads to human injury.”
- A 2018 study of grizzly attacks in Alaska found that having a dog present increased the likelihood of injury, not decreased it.

7. The few exceptions (trained Karelian bear dogs, etc.) don’t apply to pets
Professional bear-aversion dogs used by wildlife agencies are specially bred, rigorously trained from puppyhood, and handled by experts. Your Labrador or German shepherd is not in that category.

Bottom line: If you’re hiking or camping in grizzly or heavy black-bear country (Montana, Wyoming, Idaho, Alaska, parts of Colorado, California, British Columbia, Alberta, etc.), leave the dog at home or board it. It’s safer for you, safer for the dog, and safer for the bears. Many national parks and wilderness areas outright ban dogs on trails for this exact reason.

This is the biggest load of shit I've ever read. I dont care who exposes these ideas, a good dog in bear country isn't increasing your risk of being attacked. If it did, everyone who hunts around my area would be dead. Instead locals almost never get mauled and we have the highest densities of G Bears in the lower 48, and everyone has a dog with them. Real dogs, not the Californians Yorkie who instigated a bear in Glacier National Park.

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[RockAndSage]

Fwiw, what the data says that I posted is unless you have a "trained" gun owner, you are likely better off without it.

Same $h*t.

Go away.

 

[IronNoggin]

I'm sure there are a few people training their dogs for bear protection ... probably not many.

I did not "train" Amaruq as a bear dog.
In fact when he literally and seriously ATTACKED the first one he ever encountered, I was more than a little bit surprised. Inherent instinct I guess. And he stuck with that ferocious behavior all of his life, never ever backing down.

Some have it.

I doubt many bootprint mutts do.

 

[jimh406]

Same $h*t.

Go away.

Use the ignore feature instead of misquoting me.

 

[kfili]

This was one of my favorite threads before it started going off the rails. More dog suggestions please. Anyone have a dog that doubles as a trail (mtb)dog?

 

[jimh406]

This was one of my favorite threads before it started going off the rails.

I deleted almost all of my posts that were not liked by some. Others can do the same, and I will delete the other couple that are left.

 

[grfox92]

I am going to just put this out there. We have been battling the idea of re-homing both dogs for years now. We now understand that their behavioral issues are almost certainly the fact that they are littermates. When they are by them selves and separated they are great dogs. But together they just cant be domesticated and act like untrained idiots, run away, poop in the house, bark non stop when one is out and the other is kenneled.

Ive debated just making Buck "my dog" and bringing him with me everywhere, but it's just not feasible with work and his size.

Because of these behavioral issues neither dog is getting the attention they deserve. We cant bring them both anywhere with us.

So my family including my kids who have been with both dogs since they were puppies see the problem and are OK with getting rid of both or just one dog if it means normalcy.

I cant bring myself to bring them to a shelter, I don't want to put them on Facebook because people are absolutely insane when you try and re home a dog. Im a business owner and live in a small down and just dont want to do that yet.

Buck is too big for my kids to walk. He has hurt my wife several times trying to take off after rabbits and birds. He doesn't really listen to my wife either.

So I'm putting this out there. If there is anyone in WY, MT, ID near NW WY who would be interested in a fearless and handsome 6 year old Mountain Cur, I'd be willing to drive quite a ways to make sure he went to a great home.

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[RockAndSage]

I am going to just put this out there. We have been battling the idea of re-homing both dogs for years now. We now understand that their behavioral issues are almost certainly the fact that they are littermates. When they are by them selves and separated they are great dogs. But together they just cant be domesticated and act like untrained idiots, run away, poop in the house, bark non stop when one is out and the other is kenneled.

Ive debated just making Buck "my dog" and bringing him with me everywhere, but it's just not feasible with work and his size.

Because of these behavioral issues neither dog is getting the attention they deserve. We cant bring them both anywhere with us.

So my family including my kids who have been with both dogs since they were puppies see the problem and are OK with getting rid of both or just one dog if it means normalcy.

I cant bring myself to bring them to a shelter, I don't want to put them on Facebook because people are absolutely insane when you try and re home a dog. Im a business owner and live in a small down and just dont want to do that yet.

Buck is too big for my kids to walk. He has hurt my wife several times trying to take off after rabbits and birds. He doesn't really listen to my wife either.

So I'm putting this out there. If there is anyone in WY, MT, ID near NW WY who would be interested in a fearless and handsome 6 year old Mountain Cur, I'd be willing to drive quite a ways to make sure he went to a great home.

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Man, what a rough situation and decision. That's a good looking dog, hope you find someone that'll be a perfect match with him.

 

[grfox92]

Man, what a rough situation and decision. That's a good looking dog, hope you find someone that'll be a perfect match with him.

It's been years of being on and off about re homing. At first we were set on rehoming both, we never knew about Littermate Sybdrome but they 100% have it and it makes them impossible to enjoy. I dont think rehoming them together is an option. I just think they need to be separated at this point.

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[jimh406]

Try reaching out to the Mountain Cur Rescue.

 

[grfox92]

Buck and his sister Sadie.

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