Bergara vs Tikka in 6.5prc

[Bjoornwolfr]

I'm in the market for a new rifle, and have settled on a 6.5prc, I recently had a tikka t3x lite in 6.5cm with the 24”~ barrel, and it shot great groups at 100yds, after buying and shooting a Bergara b14 in .300 win mag, it reminded me so much of my dad’s passed down Remington 700’s and I loved every shot, but 6.5 prc is a new round to me, not having very much experience with it, would you all recommend getting the tikka t3x super lite with the 24” barrel, or would the Bergara b14 sierra with the 20” barrel be sufficient. I’ll add that I intend to do some long range shooting and hunting with it.l, potentially hand loading and working up an accurate shooting load for it. Where I live in Virginia and hunt, shots won’t be over 150-200 yards, but I’m currently trying to get some tags to hunt out west, specifically Muleys and elk, potentially bigger game when my wife and I start the process of buying some land we’ve had our eyes on in Alaska. Any info would help! Thank you

 

[AndrewMT34]

You'll find a lot of well-deserved Tikka love here.

One thing to consider with the Bergara is it's likely going to be built on a short action, if you start handloading, you may be limited on COAL.

The tikka takes a simple bolt stop change to make it a long action and you will have no limits on COAL.

 

[5811]

I hate to be the guy that suggests something not on the list, but the Sauer 100 sale on euro has me so tempted. 6.5 PRC for $550.

https://www.eurooptic.com/sauer-100-classic-xt-65-prc-24-1-8-1-2-x28-bbl-rifle-s1s65pt

 

[mxgsfmdpx]

Tikka and it’s not really close.

For that application and shot distances, the 6.5CM you have that’s already shooting well is all you need.

If you “want” the PRC you could easily have your Tikka 6.5CM rechambered to 6.5 PRC if you wanted.

 

[AndrewMT34]

Tikka and it’s not really close.

For that application and shot distances, the 6.5CM you have that’s already shooting well is all you need.

If you “want” the PRC you could easily have your Tikka 6.5CM rechambered to 6.5 PRC if you wanted.

and buy a magnum face bolt.

 

[mxgsfmdpx]

and buy a magnum face bolt.

The smith will handle that for him during the work

 

[peterk123]

I'm a big tikka fan. My 308 t3x lite does it all, and does it really well. But this one has me so tempted. I'd shave 10 ounces. Initial reviews indicate it's a shooter. It comes in 6.5prc.

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[Schmo]

If you read around about Bergara, there’s no way I’ll have another one. Hands down the Tikka, or the Sauer 100.

 

[Bjoornwolfr]

If you read around about Bergara, there’s no way I’ll have another one. Hands down the Tikka, or the Sauer 100.

I've owned a bergara and loved it, everybody I've talked to that has a bergara has loved it, what negatives have you read?

 

[Schmo]

I've owned a bergara and loved it, everybody I've talked to that has a bergara has loved it, what negatives have you read?

If you research, user satisfaction would come in at about 50-70%

 

[Schmo]

Here’s a starter thread.

Thread 'I'm done with Bergarbage!'

Oct 16, 2023

Posting as a warning (and vent) to anyone contemplating a Bergara Ridge rifle. I recently bought two.

Long story short, groups look like shotgun patterns. Painstakingly broke in and 4 different brands of quality factory ammo tested in both. I have the same rifle in a different caliber I bought a few years back and it's a legit 1/2" gun. Wasted a lot of time and money on these two new turds. Seems things have went south there.

Full disclosure: I am not giving them the opportunity to make it right. I don't have any desire to deal with their customer service. Been there, done that!

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[Bjoornwolfr]

Here’s a starter thread.

Thread 'I'm done with Bergarbage!'

Oct 16, 2023

Posting as a warning (and vent) to anyone contemplating a Bergara Ridge rifle. I recently bought two.

Long story short, groups look like shotgun patterns. Painstakingly broke in and 4 different brands of quality factory ammo tested in both. I have the same rifle in a different caliber I bought a few years back and it's a legit 1/2" gun. Wasted a lot of time and money on these two new turds. Seems things have went south there.

Full disclosure: I am not giving them the opportunity to make it right. I don't have any desire to deal with their customer service. Been there, done that!

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Interesting, I bought one 2 years ago, and it shot .685" groups at 100yds using federal 168gr swift scirroco's,

 

[Schmo]

Interesting, I bought one 2 years ago, and it shot .685" groups at 100yds using federal 168gr swift scirroco's,

If you’ll notice, it seems more people had better luck with the earlier Bergaras. Seems in the last couple years that QC has gone out the door. And the CS is worthless.

 

[Bjoornwolfr]

I hate to be the guy that suggests something not on the list, but the Sauer 100 sale on euro has me so tempted. 6.5 PRC for $550.

https://www.eurooptic.com/sauer-100-classic-xt-65-prc-24-1-8-1-2-x28-bbl-rifle-s1s65pt

only reason I wouldn't go with the Sauer is the LOP,

 

[mxgsfmdpx]

Interesting, I bought one 2 years ago, and it shot .685" groups at 100yds using federal 168gr swift scirroco's,

Rokslide is site where guys demand a bit more of their gear in general. It’s pretty heavily backpack hunt focused where some guys are taking their gear to its limits. When you do this, you start to learn what equipment continues to be reliable long term and what doesn’t.

Unfortunately Bergara rifles don’t make the list. Plenty of rifles are “accurate” but 3 shot groups from a table aren’t what we’re talking about here.

 

[Bjoornwolfr]

Rokslide is site where guys demand a bit more of their gear in general. It’s pretty heavily backpack hunt focused where some guys are taking their gear to its limits. When you do this, you start to learn what equipment continues to be reliable long term and what doesn’t.

Unfortunately Bergara rifles don’t make the list. Plenty of rifles are “accurate” but 3 shot groups from a table aren’t what we’re talking about here.

I understand. Should I spend a bit more and get the roughtech t3x lite or would the standard t3x superlite be fine?

 

[mxgsfmdpx]

I understand. Should I spend a bit more and get the roughtech t3x lite or would the standard t3x superlite be fine?

Either one is a good rifle. Both of those models are stainless with the roughtec being cerakoted on top of the stainless.

The roughtec will have the heavier D18 barrel over the standard D16 barrel. The only real difference in them is weight, one isn’t more inherently accurate. Caveat being that 100% of shooters of any skill level shoot a heavier gun more accurately than a lighter gun (in the same cartridge shooting the same bullets).

The other difference is the fluted bolt which does nothing and is purely for looks. And the oversized bolt knob which is nice but can be added to a regular Tikka bolt knob.

I personally wouldn’t spend the extra money over a regular stainless lite or stainless super lite, unless you plan to shoot suppressed as the roughtec comes threaded 5/8 for a suppressor.

 

[ElPollo]

All mine are standard stainless T3x lites and I don’t see much benefit from buying the more expensive versions. The stocks are basically the same architecture with a coating on the roughtechs. The fluted bolt is also not my preference because I view it as a pathway for debris to get into the action. About the only thing worth changing on the T3x lite is the stock. It’s functional, but could use a higher comb. If you add a riser and the tikka pistol grip module it becomes pretty good.

 

[ElPollo]

Either one is a good rifle. Both of those models are stainless with the roughtec being cerakoted on top of the stainless.

The roughtec will have the heavier D18 barrel over the standard D16 barrel. The only real difference in them is weight, one isn’t more inherently accurate. Caveat being that 100% of shooters of any skill level shoot a heavier gun more accurately than a lighter gun (in the same cartridge shooting the same bullets).

The other difference is the fluted bolt which does nothing and is purely for looks. And the oversized bolt knob which is nice but can be added to a regular Tikka bolt knob.

I personally wouldn’t spend the extra money over a regular stainless lite or stainless super lite, unless you plan to shoot suppressed as the roughtec comes threaded 5/8 for a suppressor.

Agree with everything here. But tikka is starting to thread most of their standard models. If you can find one of those it’s worth it. Suppressors are the best thing you can add to a gun after scope.

 

[Bjoornwolfr]

Either one is a good rifle. Both of those models are stainless with the roughtec being cerakoted on top of the stainless.

The roughtec will have the heavier D18 barrel over the standard D16 barrel. The only real difference in them is weight, one isn’t more inherently accurate. Caveat being that 100% of shooters of any skill level shoot a heavier gun more accurately than a lighter gun (in the same cartridge shooting the same bullets).

The other difference is the fluted bolt which does nothing and is purely for looks. And the oversized bolt knob which is nice but can be added to a regular Tikka bolt knob.

I personally wouldn’t spend the extra money over a regular stainless lite or stainless super lite, unless you plan to shoot suppressed as the roughtec comes threaded 5/8 for a suppressor.

My next big purchase will be a multi cal suppressor, something like the banish 46 or something similar. So I'd personally love to have the threaded barrel, but it's not necessarily a necessity I don't reckon