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I'm putting in for Utah and CO starting this year..

I was wondering what other states I should start putting in for now for a good trophy hunt down the road? I can't find too much info and Huntin Fool doesn't really cover Bear drawings..
 

luke moffat

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Kodiak Brown Bear...likely draw the first year you put in as non-res tags are often 100% whereas resident draw % for the same area are 2% or less.
 

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Kodiak Brown Bear...likely draw the first year you put in as non-res tags are often 100% whereas resident draw % for the same area are 2% or less.

Wouldn't that be influenced by the shear cost to a non-res and therefore the reduced demand? I would think that if AK opened up the guide requirement for brown bears, you would see a drastic reduction in that draw percentage. Also, since non-res have to go through a guide, does that increase their drawing odds like it does for some states down here in the lower 48?
 

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Wouldn't that be influenced by the shear cost to a non-res and therefore the reduced demand? I would think that if AK opened up the guide requirement for brown bears, you would see a drastic reduction in that draw percentage. Also, since non-res have to go through a guide, does that increase their drawing odds like it does for some states down here in the lower 48?

Likely so...just bitter as a AK res for my whole life I'll likely never get to hunt Kodiak brown bear while anyone in the lower 48 with a few bucks will get to every 4 years if one desired to :)
 

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Likely so...just bitter as a AK res for my whole life I'll likely never get to hunt Kodiak brown bear while anyone in the lower 48 with a few bucks will get to every 4 years if one desired to :)

Thats a tough pill to swallow. The griz valley I live in is littered with bears, but they took away our draw tags 4 years ago. No hunting = bears with no fear. Every outing seems to have some tense moments. Hope luck shines on you so you can exercise your .325 mighty mouse.
 

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Likely so...just bitter as a AK res for my whole life I'll likely never get to hunt Kodiak brown bear while anyone in the lower 48 with a few bucks will get to every 4 years if one desired to :)

The numbers are kind of pointless for the non resident draw on kodiak at least on the refuge unless things have changed. Basically the Feds allow x number of bears to the guide with the exclusive guide use area so those are his tags and whoever books the hunt gets the tag.. No worries Luke I know your a great hunter and kodiak is not what it used to be. Buy me a cup of coffee one day and I'll give you an area that gets very little pressure but holds huge bears.. Oh and no draw tag required!
 

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The numbers are kind of pointless for the non resident draw on kodiak at least on the refuge unless things have changed. Basically the Feds allow x number of bears to the guide with the exclusive guide use area so those are his tags and whoever books the hunt gets the tag.. No worries Luke I know your a great hunter and kodiak is not what it used to be. Buy me a cup of coffee one day and I'll give you an area that gets very little pressure but holds huge bears.. Oh and no draw tag required!

I hear ya on the refuge thing. Still be fun to go to Kodiak for 20 days straight and hunt mountain goats, deer, and bears on the same trip. :D

I'll have to take ya up on that offer to find some bears. More into hunting cool places that don't break the bank so I can go on as many as possible, but if it has large bears there too thats a plus ;)
 

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Ahhh I hear ya Luke. Kodiak is special so hope I didn't down play it too much ;) it was a dream for me to work there and I did and it was fun. The deer were probably one of the coolest things. I was a peninsula guide mostly when it came to bears so we were used to seeing caribou not deer so it was a nice change of pace to watch them while waiting on the bears. Oh and don't forget when you do draw that tag that there is plenty of surf(which I am sure you already know) to go with that turf you mentioned... Lol
 

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Wouldn't that be influenced by the shear cost to a non-res and therefore the reduced demand? I would think that if AK opened up the guide requirement for brown bears, you would see a drastic reduction in that draw percentage. Also, since non-res have to go through a guide, does that increase their drawing odds like it does for some states down here in the lower 48?


its called "guide well fair". just like the Wyoming wilderness that for some reason a non resident couldn't possibly hunt with out a guide.
 

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NE Oregon has some good spring bear hunting. Its all spot and stalk, choice of weapon. You can do it a variety of ways. Pack in hunt, float rivers, or just set up a big camp and day hunt. Plenty of color phase bears. Definitely no shortage of predators in this state!!
 

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Likely so...just bitter as a AK res for my whole life I'll likely never get to hunt Kodiak brown bear while anyone in the lower 48 with a few bucks will get to every 4 years if one desired to :)

Oh, I hear you and I would be bitter too.

its called "guide well fair". just like the Wyoming wilderness that for some reason a non resident couldn't possibly hunt with out a guide.

Yeah, that one always has me scratching my head. At least it is areas that are designated which makes a little more sense than making it species specific.

I think both could be interesting discussions but I don't want to hijack this thread further.
 

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Utah trophy areas are tough to draw also you better look again. I've got eight resident points and might finally be able to draw bookcliffs
 
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Looks like ID odds are pretty brutal for NR

And there are only two (If I remember correctly) controlled bear hunts in the state, 22 and 32... No points either... You can hunt areas on reduced priced tags and even get two of them in the northern units, every single year without drawing. Much better option, if you ask me.
 
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