ban on video taping hunts on public ground

[roadrunner]

Never invite more govt into your life.


Pretty @#$%&×! Simple.

Too much Govt.

Yep. Both of these. The last thing we really need is another ban on something...

 

[Coveyleader]

Ban this, ban that.….. WTH. What’s next? Ban hunting forums? I swear some people really need to look in the mirror.

 

[Rich M]

Ban this, ban that.….. WTH. What’s next? Ban hunting forums? I swear some people really need to look in the mirror.

They don't understand that one day their head will be on the chopping block for banning cause it's popular thought at the time.

 

[Yoder]

I would like to see them have to pay a tax to the Pittman Robertson fund. Same rate as we pay on all of our sporting goods.

 

[Wrench]

Heck I think video recording and taking pictures has gotten out of control EVERYWHERE. Restaurants, town squares, football games, the woods, and the list goes on.

My niece went with us for a 30 minute shopping trip. If she shot less than 27 selfies in that time, I will eat my hat.

The need to be famous is incredible today.

 

[devildog.34]

There should be a ban on threads/posts, calling for bans......

 

[PredatorSlayer]

I think it is a great idea! Make it illegal and prosecute the heck out of them.

 

[Huntindog45]

I’m sure it differs by state but my understanding is there’s already a pricy permit process for filming on federal land unless it’s just personal use. Probably a case of not enough personnel to enforce it

it depends on if you are filming as part of a business enterprise. you cannot film commercially on most public land. With youtube and such I am sure that line gets blurry fast.

 

[TN2shot07]

it depends on if you are filming as part of a business enterprise. you cannot film commercially on most public land. With youtube and such I am sure that line gets blurry fast.

I wouldn’t think it’s too blurry, if you are filming to try and monetize it on YouTube that’s a business (or an attempt at it).

 

[Eastfork]

it depends on if you are filming as part of a business enterprise. you cannot film commercially on most public land. With youtube and such I am sure that line gets blurry fast.

it sounded like they are looking into restricting the you tube videos. it was said, that if they are profitting off of the public land hunt videos with out proper permits, they are looking into enforcement methods.....not sure how they will....

 

[TJ]

Who is “they”?

 

[Keptwalkin]

It would be nice if people would have enough common sense and decency not to be obnoxious with filming but don’t think the answer is more regulation. And how would that be worded? I mean if someone wants to go on public land with a gopro is that ok vs a camcorder vs a film crew?

 

[Marbles]

Problem is targeting hunters specifically. Would a photographer on vacation be required to get a permit as they might decide to sell a shot? Is it only video that is banned?

Taking a picture or film takes nothing from the land. So, if you can ban that, then surely it would be even easier to ban the killing and removal of all wildlife.

There is also the 1st Amendment to contend with, it could be argued you are restricting a persons speech, I have a hard time seeing the public interest in such a ban surviving Strict Scrutiny.

 

[Mykolaivka887]

Who is “they”?

The law enforcement divisions within two federal departments, of two federal agencies. The actual law is already in the Federal Register (statutory law). The two agencies are now actually taking it to task (enforcement of the existing law) for various reasons.

 

[william schmaltz]

Problem is targeting hunters specifically. Would a photographer on vacation be required to get a permit as they might decide to sell a shot? Is it only video that is banned?

I've checked out a couple sheep spots that I've seen in photography books. Those guys have no problem listing exactly what mountain or drainage they were at in the photo caption!

A place I used to hunt sheep was absolutely demolished by a youtube guy so I can completely understand the knee-jerk reaction and why people feel this way. It really truly sucks to watch as they just pack up and head home with their youtube checks never to return to what they destroyed. I'll leave it at that, I don't have a really strong feeling either way.

I did just spend a weekend around my sister's kids. One is pre-teen. My kids are younger and all my friend's kids are mostly younger so I've never had to witness the TikTok stuff first hand. I might just be for banning cell phones altogether after watching those kids do TikTok EVERY place we went, multiple times a day.....

 

[TylerTheTerrible]

This already exists. Randy Newberg pays a lot for all his film permits and has even mentioned not being able to hunt where he wants due to not getting the right permits.

 

[displacedtexan]

Problem is targeting hunters specifically. Would a photographer on vacation be required to get a permit as they might decide to sell a shot? Is it only video that is banned?

Taking a picture or film takes nothing from the land. So, if you can ban that, then surely it would be even easier to ban the killing and removal of all wildlife.

There is also the 1st Amendment to contend with, it could be argued you are restricting a persons speech, I have a hard time seeing the public interest in such a ban surviving Strict Scrutiny.

I was gonna ask about fly fishing, or hikers... I'm sure lots of people film mountain biking on federal lands for YouTube...

 

[Huntindog45]

I was gonna ask about fly fishing, or hikers... I'm sure lots of people film mountain biking on federal lands for YouTube...

most people posting on youtube are not making a dime off of their posts. i guess you could argue youtube might be making something off of it.

 

[displacedtexan]

most people posting on youtube are not making a dime off of their posts. i guess you could argue youtube might be making something off of it.

There's plenty who are.

And DOT has made it clear, profitability isn't what determines if you're "for profit", it's the potential for profit.

 

[jayhawk]

If there is already a permit required for video recording on public lands, then what’s the difference between, say, Meateater filming a hunt with a crew vs. Joe blow with a phone? If they’re both monetized then I don’t really see a difference. Heck, throw Instagram influencers in there with the lot as well.