Back Tension

[lintond]

I've been thinking about switching to a back tension release to help with some target panic. I don't punch the trigger, but I can't float the pin to my liking.

For those of you that shoot BT any advice for a beginner? Any issues using one for hunting? I'm thinking a release with a safety would be best for hunting and would like to avoid the clicking ones too.

 

[mattstanton]

Grivtech.com

 

[velvetfvr]

I went to a scott longhorn 3 after I ditched the wrist strap. I LOVE it and only will shoot with it. I hunted with it but didn't kill anything this year. Shot squirrels with it and I shoot it faster than my wrist strap release.

I would recommend the scott longhorn. It doesn't have a safety and I don't use it with the click.

I practiced with it so cold it couldn't fire, just got used to drawing my bow with it. Then I moved to a string on a piece of aluminum to simulate at full draw, and practiced my firing engine. Then I went to my bow. Would set the moon a little hotter each shot so it would take less rotation to fire. After getting comfortable with it for a few weeks, I set it to where I wanted and never looked back.

I will have to pm you some articles from Archerytalk for you to read.

 

[lintond]

Grivtech.com

The website appears to be a dead link.

 

[Screamrider]

About a year ago I made the same decision and started with the Tru Ball Sweet Spot II, which is a BT with safety. It was the single best decision I've made with respect to my shooting, the results were fantastic. I was considering using it for hunting, but ended up trying a Stan Shootoff thumb trigger and loved it as well. I now use my Stan Shootoff for all my shooting, as I can use the exact same shooting engine I learned and refined on my Sweet Spot.

Bottom line, having the safety on the sweet spot gives great piece of mind when learning BT. One note of caution though!!!....if you get a sweet spot, be sure to loc tite (purple non-permanent) the set screw. If you don't, the screw will gradually back off and the release will shoot so hot that it will go off mid draw. I had this happen twice before I applied the loc-tite. No problems since.

 

[lintond]

I went to a scott longhorn 3 after I ditched the wrist strap. I LOVE it and only will shoot with it. I hunted with it but didn't kill anything this year. Shot squirrels with it and I shoot it faster than my wrist strap release.

I would recommend the scott longhorn. It doesn't have a safety and I don't use it with the click.

I practiced with it so cold it couldn't fire, just got used to drawing my bow with it. Then I moved to a string on a piece of aluminum to simulate at full draw, and practiced my firing engine. Then I went to my bow. Would set the moon a little hotter each shot so it would take less rotation to fire. After getting comfortable with it for a few weeks, I set it to where I wanted and never looked back.

I will have to pm you some articles from Archerytalk for you to read.

Articles would be great! A hinge seems like the simplest to use.

 

[ST52v]

http://www.dudleyarchery.info/article?download=56%3Abeating-the-curse&start=30

Here is what I mentioned in my PM. He has lots to read on his site. Enjoy!!! I have been wanting to do what you are about to do for years. I just never seem to be able to free up enough time consistently in order to make the commitment. If there are any new shooters out there please read some of this and get started correctly and save yourself the frustrations down the road.

 

[boom]

dont change releases, i didnt and was taught this..

come to full draw, lock finger over trigger, get it rigid and stiff (uh, we're still talking about your finger )..now aim, and when ready..pull tight with the back tension. when you do this, the wrist strap extends ever so slightly pushing the trigger into your rigid finger..SWOOOP! you fire!

it is amazing how well it works for me. i have zero target panic, i dont punch the trigger, and it works. now focus on follow thru..dont drop the bow, and dont drop your draw hand..kinda hold it there like you are flexing your bicep muscle.

i learned that bicep thing from Dudley..(as above,..maybe the same video..dunno)

 

[jmez]

My advice would be to try to find someone/somewhere you can get some lessons with a tension release. It will make the transition easier and you will learn the correct way to use one.

I don't use mine for hunting, just practice in the off season. I would recommend a thumb release for hunting rather than a hinge type.

 

[wapitibob]

You need to figure out what your brain will tolerate as far as movement of the release hand goes and act accordingly. A release won't fire without movement from you unless it's electronic or hydraulic.

 

[Manosteel]

I have used a back tension release for hunting with success. The carter The Evolution is a resistance activated release and is the perfect release for teaching proper shot execution. The release will fire when you increase the resistance.

To fire the release hold the safety down as you pull back. Then once you get into your valley and anchor in, let your thumb off the safety and begin pulling and building pressure on the back wall of the cam until the release fires. Once you get used to it, the release is automatic, you just have to learn to focus on target and start the engine.

I go back and forth between this release and my Carter Just B-cuz

 

[tipsntails7]

Carter honey, honey do or honey 2 are the best hinges I've shot as far as with a safety.

 

[ontarget7]

I've been thinking about switching to a back tension release to help with some target panic. I don't punch the trigger, but I can't float the pin to my liking.

For those of you that shoot BT any advice for a beginner? Any issues using one for hunting? I'm thinking a release with a safety would be best for hunting and would like to avoid the clicking ones too.

I have used them all and still prefer a index finger release with back tension.

You might have some other things going on to be honest. When you can't get the float to your liking it is not a release problem. You can definitely punch hinge or thumb releases just as easy and in the wind, the hinge releases are not the best choices IMO.

 

[KMT]

I've been thinking about switching to a back tension release to help with some target panic. I don't punch the trigger, but I can't float the pin to my liking

I know NOTHING about back tension releases. How would one help with target panic or floating the pin? It seems like you still have the same issue.

 

[tipsntails7]

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I have used them all and still prefer a index finger release with back tension.

You might have some other things going on to be honest. When you can't get the float to your liking it is not a release problem. You can definitely punch hinge or thumb releases just as easy and in the wind, the hinge releases are not the best choices IMO.

I agree with ontarget that it could be a number of things, one would be draw length to long, other is bow slightly out of time. but I dont see a problem using a hinge in the wind. If you use back tension it doesn't matter what Device you use unless your punching the trigger

 

[ontarget7]

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I agree with ontarget that it could be a number of things, one would be draw length to long, other is bow slightly out of time. but I dont see a problem using a hinge in the wind. If you use back tension it doesn't matter what Device you use unless your punching the trigger

When the wind is blowing good, it is not always a bad thing punching the trigger. Some Competitive shooters will switch to a thumb release for those occasions. You will sometimes find those misses much smaller in windy conditions doing it that way.

 

[wapitibob]

I know NOTHING about back tension releases. How would one help with target panic or floating the pin? It seems like you still have the same issue.

You do have the same issue. The BT is simply another NEW way to execute the shot so in essence, you're starting over. I had the panic for years. If you can't get comfortable with the pin in the target face, you'll never get past it regardless of which release is in your hand.
My suggestion is to start real close at a bigger target face and work your way back. The worst thing any archer can do is start out as a beginner at 20 yards shooting an indoor face. Guaranteed aiming anxiety and eventual target panic.

 

[tipsntails7]

When the wind is blowing good, it is not always a bad thing punching the trigger. Some Competitive shooters will switch to a thumb release for those occasions. You will sometimes find those misses much smaller in windy conditions doing it that way.

You can punch a hinge just as easily.

 

[ontarget7]

You can punch a hinge just as easily.

Agreed but there are many that miss by much farther in the wind and the reason some carry a thumb release