Back tension release critique

[c5mrr270]

The straight arm technique might be difficult because of other form issues. Once you have a better picture up it might be easier to see.

 

[rhendrix]

Thanks buddy.

 

[c5mrr270]

Anytime.

 

[Jason Snyder]

A few things I see:

Your grip hand is not relaxed. I know you think it is, but I don't think it's physically possible for your fingers to point like they are and your hand to be completely tension free.
Your bow arm has too much bend in it, and it looks like you are collapsing your elbow downwards (can't tell for sure with the hoody).
Rotate your grip hand to a 45 degree angle with the grip/riser and your elbow will likely point outwards more.
Maybe try a little lower wrist on your grip.
The string is too far into your face and you are pressing on it with your nose. Nose should just lightly touch.
You don't have any follow through. Immediately after the shot your bow arm drops and you are grabbing the bow with your grip hand.

 

[jmez]

As others have said, need to get the bend out of the bow arm.

A couple other recommendations I would make learining to use the hinge. Back your draw weight down 10lbs. Take the sight off of your bow. Stand 10 foot from the target at shoulder level and blind bale shoot, alot.

As for the click. You should not be aiming at all prior to the click. The click tells you when the shot sequence starts. Then, and only then do you begin to aim and start your firing engine.

 

[rhendrix]

How do I get the bend outta my bow arm, shorten or lengthen draw length?

And how do I have follow through when the shot is completely unexpected?

 

[Jason Snyder]

How do I get the bend outta my bow arm, shorten or lengthen draw length?

And how do I have follow through when the shot is completely unexpected?

If the shot is completely unexpected, it's easy to follow through. All you do is hold your bow arm out straight and keep your grip relaxed, trying to watch through the sight window the whole time at your target.

You could take the bend out of your arm right now with that DL. Allow your anchor to come forward so that your release hand is touching your jaw bone.

 

[jmez]

May not need to change your DL, maybe just your anchor.

Point your bow at the target with your arm straight and draw the bow, kind of how you do in the video. Don't bend the arm and see if you can get an anchor that allows you not to bend the arm.

Where is the DL currently?

Are there any Professional Coaches around you?

 

[rhendrix]

DL is currently at 28.5", not sure if there's any coaches around me. But I can ask another forum.

Jason, I'm pushing and pulling, I think I'd have better follow through trying the firing engine that OR Archer mentioned. I really had to yank the crap outta that handle to get it to fire.

 

[Jason Snyder]

It's probably hard to fire because your draw arm is too far back, preventing you from being able to "pull" through the shot. I can see the slight bend in your release wrist. That arm should be completely relaxed from the elbow down through your hand.

No matter how weird it feels, just try getting that bend out of your bow arm and let your hand settle on your face like Wapitibob's picture. Then try to pull through the shot and see how it feels.

 

[rhendrix]

Is this better?

 

[wapitibob]

You don't HAVE to straighten your arm. It's generally accepted to have a straight arm, but, if a bent arm works for you and it's consistent, shoot it bent. Lots of ways to shoot.
One thing for sure, that short axle bow plays havoc with the string/face/anchor relationship.

This guy does just fine with the same arm config as you.

 

[c5mrr270]

Still need more push with your bow arm. Also still need a better photo.

Camera on the same shooting line as you.

Full body

Arrow dead level.

 

[Jimbob]

better photo, need view of your feet, target at shoulder height so arrow is level, camera 90 degrees from you. If you do this you'll get a lot more replies on AT as well.

You can change your form to whatever you want with out changing draw length but your anchor will change.

If you really want to figure this out and play around with it then I would remove your sight and peep. Get a comfortable anchor and form then set the bow up to fit you.

Take a good picture, and start a new thread on AT maybe the title is throwing people off.

 

[elkbowkevin]

OP: stand at a door jamb, pick up your bow arm and then put the corner of the wall or jamb in your bow hand. THEN lock out the elbow FULLY EXTENDED. rotate elow till knuckles are 45 degrees. THEN unlock the bow elbow but still keep arm straight, pull the shoulder back down into the low position.

Then LEAN into the wall and you will feel where the arm is the strongest, and you will fell like you could stand there for a long time and not have the shoulder, tricep of bicep muscles get tired.

THAT is the position of the bow arm which will allow for the strongest shot. And it will usually result in the best sight float patern.

Right now your shooting with a deep anchor and bent elbow causing your release elbow to be "behind your head" and release arm not in line with the arrow.

This will result in left right misses when trying to shoot back tension. You can see your movement in the bow when you start to pull more.

 

[Curtis C]

I dont think either of your hands are relaxed in the last picture. try observing your hands while sitting at a table eating dinner or while watching a movie. You will likely find your fingers curved until your hand is about half way closed. Whatever position you find doing this is the relaxed hand you want to have when shooting your bow.