Arrow build recommendations

[mudcat81]

I am trying to get back into bowhunting and need some new arrows. I am currently shooting Easton Axis N fused 400 @ 27" with 3 vanes and 100 grain broadhead. I originally had these arrows made about 10 years ago when I was shooting a Hoyt Trykon. I have since upgraded to a Hoyt Carbon Spider Turbo. Draw length is 27.5". I am looking for suggestions on a good all purpose arrow. I hope to hunt antelope and elk next year. I believe my current arrow setup is a little under 400gpi. I would like to go heavier and get closer to 475-500. I have been trying for months to find time to get into the local bow shop but its 2 hours away and it hasn't happened. I would like to order some arrows off Blackovis or maybe Day Six or wherever. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

[The_Gallagher79]

I have some day six 300 arrows with the aluminum footers. They are very small diameter. Mine came in at 506 grains at 29" with a 100 grain head. They fly very well out of my bow and penetrate a little deeper into my foam target than my other arrows bc of the small diameter I'm guessing. They are nice. This year I am using some 28" easton axis 5mm, 300 match grade with a 75 grain brass insert. They were built by Elk river archery. They came out to 502 grains with a aluminium footer and 100 grain head. The difference is the axis arrows have a higher foc. I like both but I just like the Elk river made arrows a little better.

 

[The_Gallagher79]

Elk river and day six

 

[Mighty Mouse]

Step 1 is to determine the appropriate static spine (defined as the inches of deflection induced by hanging a 1.94 lb weight from the center of a 28" segment of arrow shaft) for your setup using a spine chart similar to the one below or a calculator like Archer's Advantage. For a 27" arrow with 100 gr point shot out of a 70# bow, most charts/calculators will recommend something around .350" spine. A longer arrow, higher point weight, or higher draw weight would require a stiffer (lower deflection number) spine.

The model number of an arrow is typically equal to the arrow's static spine deflection measurement multiplied by 1000 (e.g., Black Eagle Carnivore 350 arrow has a 0.350" static spine). The only exception that I'm aware of to this numbering convention is Carbon Express, which uses higher model numbers for their stiffer arrows and vice versa (e.g., CE Maxima Hunter 450 is stiffer than CE Maxima Hunter 250).

Once you've determined your spine, the world is your oyster. There are many high quality options out there. Pricing scales with straightness tolerance (among other things), and unless you're a world class target archer, you probably don't need ±0.001" straightness. As far as you are from a bow shop, you may consider buying a cut-off saw and fletching jig so you can order full length bare shafts and finish them out yourself.

 

[raptor16]

What is your draw weight? I’m shooting Victory RIP TKOs right now and really like them. A lot of guys like Axis and they’re great too. I still have a dozen of them lying around. I went with the TKOs because I needed a 300 spine and wanted arrow weight around 465 gr with 15%ish FOC which was much easier to get with 300 rips than 300 axis due to the axis being heavier GPI.

 

[brettdunn7]

What is your draw weight? I’m shooting Victory RIP TKOs right now and really like them. A lot of guys like Axis and they’re great too. I still have a dozen of them lying around. I went with the TKOs because I needed a 300 spine and wanted arrow weight around 465 gr with 15%ish FOC which was much easier to get with 300 rips than 300 axis due to the axis being heavier GPI.

I’ll second these. I’m thinking of going with the VAP TKO next to get little more weight. May just stick with rip and do a heavier insert and head.


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[mudcat81]

I really appreciate the detailed information. I am not sure on the exact current draw weight. I really need to make some time to get to the bow shop. I would like to have them check timing and help with tuning. Would love to someday be able to build my own custom arrows and play around with different setups. I may start by calling the archery shop and see what they offer for arrows and if they would build me a couple different options. Then I could play around with them and see what I like best.

Looking at the chart, it looks like I will need a 350 spine. I don't know what the bow is currently set at but I plan on having it set at 70. I had my Trykon turned all the way up (72) when I started hunting antelope to give me a little more distance. It worked out very well to 65 yards. Current bow has an HHA sight. My current arrows hit about 2" high until I get around 50 yards. I am actually pretty happy with my groupings out to 50 yards with my current arrows but they are on light and under spined side for this bow and I am down to 4 arrows.

 

[Whitetail74]

My set up this year is an axis 350 with 75 grains of brass up front. Figure out your target arrow weight and when you go to use the spine chart just know that weight up front changes spine. You can always drop down a spine to gain stiffness, then increase the weight up front. You can play a lot to get to the weight you want. I’ve had great luck with Easton axis and fmjs.

 

[mudcat81]

I was originally looking exclusively at the Easton FMJ but started hearing about them being bent upon arrow removal. As long as I shoot my Block target that wouldn't worry me but I like to shoot FP at the local range and there bale targets can be hard to retrieve from. I have actually stopped shooting the closer targets and now only shoot 45 plus there.