Argali Rincon 2P vs Seek Outside Cimarron for primarily solo use in backcountry

[elkman64!]

I’m looking at these two tents to use for spring bear and fall archery elk. I plan on packing the tent up and carrying it with me each day, and will run a stove the majority of the time. From reading others forums and watching videos….. I’ve narrowed my options down to the Argali Rincon 2P and Seek Outside Cimarron 2.0. Both seem to be loved by people who have used them - I’m slightly leaning twords the Cimarron but am slightly concerned about the size it will take up in my pack, primary when I am hunting solo. Anyone on here have experience with both of these tents?

 

[MI223]

I think the silvertip is more comparable to the Rincon. The Cameron is great. But it is a big shelter for 1 person.

I have a redcliff and I am looking at the Rincon and the silvertip for a solo shelter

 

[elkman64!]

I think the silvertip is more comparable to the Rincon. The Cameron is great. But it is a big shelter for 1 person.

I have a redcliff and I am looking at the Rincon and the silvertip for a solo shelter

Great point - silvertip might be a “middle” option between the other two I mentioned.

 

[mrbillbrown]

Love my Kifaru Tut pyramid shelter for 1. It measures 100"x100"x78"and weighs 3# 11oz. It's a palace for 1 and has great stand-up height for stretching, dressing, sitting in a chair, etc. Not sure I can go back to a "shorter" floorless shelter.

 

[CoWapiti]

I love my cimarron but I think it would be a lot to pack w/ stove for solo use. For your application I'd be looking at the Guardian or Silvertip. I also have the Eolus which is an older Seek offering similar to the Guardian but smaller and not stove compatible. It's perfect for my solo trips.

 

[elkman64!]

I love my cimarron but I think it would be a lot to pack w/ stove for solo use. For your application I'd be looking at the Guardian or Silvertip. I also have the Eolus which is an older Seek offering similar to the Guardian but smaller and not stove compatible. It's perfect for my solo trips.

Thanks. I’ve seen photos of the silvertip and cimarron in their stuff sacks side by side, and the difference in size was not too noticeable. Maybe I need multiple tents.

 

[CoWapiti]

I mainly meant in terms of weight.

 

[gtriple]

I’d get the dyneema Peax teepee. I’ve got the dyneema Cimarron and the Peax is an upgrade in design.

You won’t need the stove for archery elk. But the space is nice.

I wouldn’t buy either of their stoves. I’d buy a custom 12” one from @renagde

 

[mountainman406]

I pack a Cimarron/stove solo every year and never had an issue with it. I use a nest on one side and leave the other open for gear/firewood. It does have a fair amount of space solo but I enjoy being able to spread my things out to dry every night and also having enough space to sit in a backpacking chair while eating next to the stove. IMO it’s the best shelter SO makes and really versatile.


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[elkman64!]

I pack a Cimarron/stove solo every year and never had an issue with it. I use a nest on one side and leave the other open for gear/firewood. It does have a fair amount of space solo but I enjoy being able to spread my things out to dry every night and also having enough space to sit in a backpacking chair while eating next to the stove. IMO it’s the best shelter SO makes and really versatile.


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Cimarron it is! Thanks.

 

[whiskybiker]

Thanks. I’ve seen photos of the silvertip and cimarron in their stuff sacks side by side, and the difference in size was not too noticeable. Maybe I need multiple tents.

Having handled both. The ST compresses quite a bit more then the cim. The cim is nice for extra room for your gear, though.

 

[mountainman406]

Cimarron it is! Thanks.

I think you’ll enjoy it, it makes for a great home away from home and I’ve had it in some pretty nasty storms! Also, I can’t recommend the Lite Outdoors XL stove enough. I’ve had much better luck with these than box stoves (panels always warp/leak smoke) and they set up pretty quick.

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[45-70govt]

If your going to go the Lite Outdoors stove route why not just pull the trigger on a full Lite Outdoors setup? I just got a Isola 4 with carbon pole, nest, stove and all the goodies for sub 1K CAD before tax. Pretty hard to argue with that

 

[mountainman406]

If your going to go the Lite Outdoors stove route why not just pull the trigger on a full Lite Outdoors setup? I just got a Isola 4 with carbon pole, nest, stove and all the goodies for sub 1K CAD before tax. Pretty hard to argue with that

OP could and it would be cheaper since they have discontinued models on sale. For me, the second door was why I went with the SO instead. It’s nice to have a second door to throw firewood and gear into instead of having to work around a stove to get stuff in and out. Purely personal preference in the tent, but the LO stoves are the best I’ve used and have been happy the past 8+ years with mine.


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[elkman64!]

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OP could and it would be cheaper since they have discontinued models on sale. For me, the second door was why I went with the SO instead. It’s nice to have a second door to throw firewood and gear into instead of having to work around a stove to get stuff in and out. Purely personal preference in the tent, but the LO stoves are the best I’ve used and have been happy the past 8+ years with mine.


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I spoke with Seek on the phone. The member recommended the cimarron lite - he said that due to the single door they have the stove jack in a different location that opens up more space inside when running a stove.

 

[Dirtydan]

It's no surprise that I'm a SO fanboy. I have their pack system as well as using in the past the LBO, Silvertip, DST, DCF DST, Silex, and a Cimarron. Customer service, support, warranty and made in the USA are key reasons that I've supported the company. In my opinion the Cim is a lot of shelter to be setting up and packing away for a fall run and gun hunts. The Silex or Silvertip would be ideal or even a MLD Duomid(again made in the USA). Also, unless the temps are calling for all week freezing or rain then the stove stays in the truck. It's just not worth it to me for the time to set up and process wood. All personal preference what you want out of camp life but for me and my hunting style, by the time I'm done for the day I just want to set up a shelter, fill my belly and go to sleep.

 

[Poser]

Cimarron is great for 2 people, but, as others have said, its a lot of tent to haul around solo.
I do often carry a Cimarron solo is when I'm expecting quite a bit of rain as, In that case, the extra height and space is great for getting out of wet rain gear as well as hanging it as well as just spending extra time in the tent waiting for a break in the storm. I do sometimes carry it on overnight fishing trips in the summer as well as the weight/bulk isn't a big deal on a 4 hour hike with summer gear.

 

[ewade07]

I had a Cimmaron for years, was my first tipi tent, used the hell out of it. But, i sold it and bought the 2P and 4P tents from Argali. They are stupid light and both have plenty of space. I used my Rincon 2P this past year deer hunting solo with a stove and it was great. The Cimarron tends to sag when it gets wet which is something the Argali tents are better about.