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I picked up a Tikka T3x 308 Compact. It'll get threaded. Do I keep it at 20" or chop to 16"?

I'm inclined to go 16"...but it sure does seems like those bullets leave slow.

Open to pointers. Let me know what yall think.
 
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I cut mine to 18” from 22”.
For me 20” wasn’t a big enough jump to justify at the time so I went to 18”.

For reference factory Norma 180 Bondstrikes have a MV of 2531 from the 18 and 4” of Tikka barrel weighs 4.6 ounces.
 

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What is your maximum range and what bullet weight do you plan to shoot? The research I've done shows that a 190 ABLR will still be at 1800 fps at 440 yards at sea level with a launch speed of above 2365 fps MV. The 308 can do that with a 190 but just barely. If you drop down to a 168 ELDM you need a MV of 2550 fps to get there. If you go down to a 130 TTSX Barnes you need 2925 fps MV just to get to 1800 fps at 440 yards which is below the suggested 2k fps minimum expansion velocity.

What bullet are you looking to shoot and to what distance?

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Thanks guys. This is helpful.

This rifle isn't for a specific purpose...one of those "wants" rather than a need. Just seeing what the available options look like.
 

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My brother bought one for his boys Christmas present . I had a guy cut it to 18” and thread it. Put a trijicon credo on it and screwed a silencerco scythe on her… man it’s a handy little gun. I sighted it in with 150gr fed fusions and the chrono showed they were like 2750ish
 

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I picked up a Tikka T3x 308 Compact. It'll get threaded. Do I keep it at 20" or chop to 16"?

I'm inclined to go 16"...but it sure does seems like those bullets leave slow.

Open to pointers. Let me know what yall think.
If you are putting a can on it, go 16”. If not… then keep it longer.
 

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It'll only be shot suppressed.

Cool. I am partial to short barrels… for the last decade one of my primary hunting rifles is a 12.5” 6.8 w/7” can. I don’t like long guns. My latest bolt rifle project is a 16” 6.5CM that started with an 8” can, but moved quickly to a shorter 6” can (Scythe). That rifle killed a cow elk at 302 yards this year without issue using 130tmk at 2750 from the muzzle, and is above expansion velocity out past 700 yards… which is plenty for me.

The difference between 18” and 16” is going to be around 50 fps. If you plug your numbers into a ballistic calc, using 1800 fps as min expansion velocity for match type bullets (ELDM, EldX, TMK, etc..) or 2200 fps for monos, when you hit the number is your maximum effective terminal range. Does 50fps matter?…

This is my real 308 data from a hunting load (handload) shot through a 16” large frame AR with 7” can. It is not a max load by any stretch… mid level.

150gr Accubond at 2675 muzzle = 1800fps at 440 yards (1808 fps)

If we add 50fps of muzzle velocity, that changes to 460 (1814 fps)

This data for for my current atmospherics in the desert and will be better at higher elevation.

Point is, does the 20yard delta matter to you?

I prefer the handiness of a shorter rifle.
 
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