Animal reaction after match bullet?

[hunterjmj]

215 Berger hybrid 300 WM
I started shooting this combo in 2016.
6 cows -All but 1 never went further than 20 yards. 1 was drt (high shoulder) and 1 peeled off from the group and went maybe 50 yards then slid down a snowy slope.
1 bull - Soaked up 3 shots to the lungs. Went 100 yards. First shot was lethal but put 2 more in him. He never hunched or showed signs of being hit on the first 2 shots.
5 muley bucks - 3 went maybe 20 yards and 2 were drt
4 antelope - drt
2 whitetail does - drt
This year I'm running the 223 and 73 gr eldm
1 antelope - Went 20 yards and flipped backwards.

 

[Tmac]

What bullet?

77 TMK from an 223 and 140 Trophy Tip from a 270 Win. I put details in the 223 thread. Very similar results, other than one fragmented and one did not.

 

[BrentH]

Over the past 4 years, 5 deer shot with 143 ELD-X behind the shoulder from 50-430 yards:

Blacktail @ 200 yards - dropped instantly

Mule Deer @ 90 yards - ran, but died within 50 yards

Mule Deer @ 50 yards - ran, but died within 50 yards

Mule Deer @ 200 yards - ran, stopped, got wobbly and tipped over within 50 yards

Whitetail @ 430 yards - ran, but was dead within 50ish yards (maybe a little more)

I have video of the 200 yard mule deer and 430 yard whitetail.

 

[83cj-7]

This morning with 300 WM, 215 Berger, 250 yards. Exit looks high but it was dead center lungs. Even with all that she ran 30 yards with a blood trail 3ft wide.

Last night i shot another doe with the same rifle, at the same distance. Hit high shoulder and she never twitched (no surprise).

 

[yoopshoot]

3 whitetails - 162 eldx

First 360 yard shot. Deer took few steps fell over

Second 150 yards- dropped in tracks

Third 120 yards- dropped in tracks.


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[Felix40]

I don't believe oryx die within yards.

Yes, I vaguely remember a rodeo that would make a guy say that. Haha

 

[Solm]

They always hump up in my experience.

 

[TeaGull]

First elk with 140 ELDM, 2550 fps MV, 200 yard shot.
Double lung. No exit. No blood trail.
Ran 30 yards and died no fuss.

 

[justin davis]

Majority of animals I’ve seen shot with eldms have hunched up or layed down and died. Killed a few with Berger’s and they have run a bit and died or dropped

 

[kodyshriver]

With a 168 bVLD, most have been incapacitated within 50yd. Did shoot one buck that traveled 600yd with a golf-ball sized exit (entrance was one rib forward of exit), leaving a red carpet the whole way. Can’t say the bullet didn’t do its job, unless upset didn’t occur until later than anticipated. Chalked it up to a strong will to live.

 

[Chris in TN]

Bumping this thread to ask a question instead of starting a new thread....

OP, would you say that generally you see more 'hump up' reactions with match bullets and fewer 'take off running instantly' reactions?

Asking because my daughter's deer this weekend 'humped up' and it's beginning to seem like a theme of sorts. Hers was suppressed too FWIW.

 

[hereinaz]

Bumping this thread to ask a question instead of starting a new thread....

OP, would you say that generally you see more 'hump up' reactions with match bullets and fewer 'take off running instantly' reactions?

Asking because my daughter's deer this weekend 'humped up' and it's beginning to seem like a theme of sorts. Hers was suppressed too FWIW.

A couple dozen I have personally witnessed, when hit through the ribs and lungs have humped up. The first few were with a brake and all the rest now suppressed.

The only runners in my small sample have been those hit in a muscle group.

 

[Chris in TN]

A couple dozen I have personally witnessed, when hit through the ribs and lungs have humped up. The first few were with a brake and all the rest now suppressed.

The only runners in my small sample have been those hit in a muscle group.

My daughter's deer that I mentioned, the 147eldm exited into the shoulder. It still, per her description since I wasn't there, stood there stunned a second or two then tried to wobble away. Went maybe 15 yards uphill (the easiest direction available since it was standing head-down in a water hole at the shot) then stumbled back and fell dead in the water.

It was her first 'solo' animal and for training purposes we have went over the animal's reaction and her reaction and what to do differently on future kills. Apparently its movement was slow enough that she *could have* shot it again, but didn't because, uh, dad forgot to explain that frontal chest shots being risky, isn't a factor on followup shots. She didn't want to make a 'bad' followup. I had to explain - gently - that there's no such thing as a bad followup and if it's moving and you can see it and you have a safe shot you should keep hammering away once the initial hit is made.

All's well that ends well, but the experience has left me questioning the prevalence of 'hump up' shots.

I guess it's how deer react to all the extra wallop getting dumped in them.

*ducks head*