All carbon injexion arrows

[blackduck889]

Who shoots or has shot these. What are your thoughts on accuracy/ durability / tuneability. I would likely be using a fixed blade head with an extra insert up front.

 

[Bowhuntr64]

I love them!!!! Extremely accurate and very tunable. You ought to PM Ontarget7. He has done a lot of testing on them and raves about them. I have quite a few animals down with them--elk, deer, bear, and hogs. All with the Exodus head on them. The Exodus has the toughest ferrule in Deep Six format of any head I know of, due to the steel quality and the short and stocky dimensions. It's a winner with the Injexions.

 

[blackduck889]

i saw ur post on the exodus. I will try those with the injexions thanks. hard to go away from my axis but getting the itch to experiment again.

 

[Bowhuntr64]

Yeah, I really liked the Axis as well. But the Injexions are much better. I never have a broadhead crunch the tip of my arrow any more, and the penetration is definitely better.

 

[lintond]

I wanted to use the injexions last year but couldn't get them to tune. Think I needed a bit more spine. Wish they came in a 300 spine. They shot great with my field points though.

 

[blackduck889]

I was concerned about that as well I like to go at least one spine up and sometimes more if I use 2 inserts or a brass insert. Im at 27" arrow 70lbs CS turbo with a fixed broadhead. Im thinking I will use 2 inserts with a 100 grain head. What are opinions on that set up with the 330 spine.

 

[Tony Trietch]

You will have trouble. Our numbers are practically identical.
Including the hoyt turbo. If you are set on using the injexions you can back down the limbs a few turns and maybe get good Bh flight.
I had 27.25" 330 Injexions with two inserts and a 100gr tip and it was just to weak for the turbo cam.

 

[charvey9]

330 spine with 27" arrow should have no problem tuning at 70lbs.

I shoot the FMJ injexions at 28" with a 28.5" draw at 72lbs in my CST. Great broadhead flight with the Muzzy Trocar.

 

[lintond]

330 spine with 27" arrow should have no problem tuning at 70lbs.

I shoot the FMJ injexions at 28" with a 28.5" draw at 72lbs in my CST. Great broadhead flight with the Muzzy Trocar.

Hmmm I had issues with a similar setup last year. I was using double inserts.

 

[jmez]

I shoot the FMJ 330 injections out of a 70# carbon element. 28.5 inch draw 28 inch arrow, 55gr half outsert, 125gr broadheads, no troubles tuning fixed blade heads.

Recently been shooting a .300 Kinetic Kaos and they don't fly any different/better than the .330 FMJ's.

 

[ontarget7]

Great arrows guys, with very consistent tolerances. If there is a down side it would be the D6 HIT when absorbing blows, you can get a little splintering or mushrooming effect in the front of the shaft. The fieldpoints are prone to bend easier than your standard ones so carry some extras. Overall a great performing arrow that I will always keep on hand.

 

[Brandon Pattison]

Great arrows guys, with very consistent tolerances. If there is a down side it would be the D6 HIT when absorbing blows, you can get a little splintering or mushrooming effect in the front of the shaft. The fieldpoints are prone to bend easier than your standard ones so carry some extras. Overall a great performing arrow that I will always keep on hand.

I have had great luck with gluing in my inserts. I have had a dozen all carbon Injexions and I figured the extra wall thickness would make them more durable. They weren't in my opinion. I have been running the Axis all carbons before and after and they too have the splintering effect. I use a C2 diameter RPS inserts (Easton Aftermath) for my recurve and shoot some things I shouldn't. Basically, I don't know if I can personally tell the difference in the quality of these arrows as far as accuracy is concerned but when it comes time to redo my arrow setup I am going to look long and hard at arrows with an insert that has the exterior shoulder. Even if the glue gives a little, in theory at least in my head, the shoulder should help the shaft not splinter. However, this could all be due to more surface area of a longer and larger diameter insert because your head 'creates' the shoulder. Be sure that you clean the shaft and inserts well and use a 24-hour epoxy in lieu of the 5-minute stuff which I think gets brittle.

 

[blackduck889]

picked up some injexions we will see. thanks for the replies. This may be for a entirely different post but I have found my hogg father single pin is giving me some difficulty with my 468 grain arrow. set peep at 50 yards but when shooting 35 yrd to 80 its difficult keeping groups tight at the long and short ranges. I dont really want to lighten up arrows but shot placement is #1. looking at shooting a 408 grain set up with high foc to keep the single pin movement tight. This would not alter my anchor as much. Thoughts ?? I dont like to go under the 425 grain personally.

The other set up would be hexx 330 50 grn brass insert 100 grain- total weight approx 400grns-- broadhead/cut on contact to assist with penetration with the lighter arrow. Thoughts ?

 

[blackduck889]

Just an update here. Injexions are working nicely. Just got a few Hexx 330 built and must say they seem to be grouping a little tighter. total grain is 407/50 insert/100 head @ 67lbs. Im impressed with them thus far. Durability is questionable. Time will tell I guess. Anyone else here use the hexx 330 arrows.

 

[ontarget7]

Just an update here. Injexions are working nicely. Just got a few Hexx 330 built and must say they seem to be grouping a little tighter. total grain is 407/50 insert/100 head @ 67lbs. Im impressed with them thus far. Durability is questionable. Time will tell I guess. Anyone else here use the hexx 330 arrows.

When testing arrows you do have to retune accordingly for each one to have a fair assessment from one to another.

The Hexx and Injexions are different in diameter as well as overal weight. This will change your vertical nock travel from one to another as well as dynamic spine.

You might already be doing this but figured I would point it out if not

 

[blackduck889]

U R correct target. I needed to move my rest a smidge and put half twist in my left Y with the Hexx. Like I said the 407 total weight im not fond of but, Im going for shot placement as my #1 choice for set up this year. I gotta keep playing with them tho to get a final decision. Thanks for the reminder tho

Duck

 

[ontarget7]

U R correct target. I needed to move my rest a smidge and put half twist in my left Y with the Hexx. Like I said the 407 total weight im not fond of but, Im going for shot placement as my #1 choice for set up this year. I gotta keep playing with them tho to get a final decision. Thanks for the reminder tho

Duck

407 gr is not bad at all and have had very good penetration around that weight range.

Going against the grain this year and going with 372 gr

 

[Matt W.]

I've been messing around with the Deep Six FMJ Injexions. I screwed up on the 1st dozen and had them cut to short... That's an expensive mistake.. Anyway... Current setup is a 330 spine, 29", 100gr BH, weighs in at ~460grs. So far they seem to do pretty good.

 

[Manosteel]

407 gr is not bad at all and have had very good penetration around that weight range.

Going against the grain this year and going with 372 gr

Over the last three years, the last three elk I have shot with a bow (6x6; 5x5 and 7x7) were all shot with arrows weighing in the 375-390gr range, and all shot at over 300fps (average speed was about 310fps). I saw no perceptible loss in penetration compared to years where I shot elk with 430gr+ arrows.

With that said my Carbon Spyder Turbo ZT is shooting so fast I have to go with a 430-440 gr arrow this year. During testing and tunning I was meeting the bows IBO speeds of 350fps - shooting a 419gr arrow 320 fps. More impressive was that over 12 shots thru the Chrono the difference in speed from shot to shot was less than 1 fps.

 

[Jeff Martin]

I've been messing around with the Deep Six FMJ Injexions. I screwed up on the 1st dozen and had them cut to short... That's an expensive mistake.. Anyway... Current setup is a 330 spine, 29", 100gr BH, weights in at ~460grs. So far they seem to do pretty good.

Do you still have the short ones? I need a short arrow... perhaps we can work out something....

I am still shooting the original ACC SuperSlim which is the first version of the AC Injections IMO, just a touch more diameter.