Air Lock Industries Suppressor

[DannyB]

Denver Demo. I’ve been in contact with @h2so4 , who’s friends with the owner of Triple J Armory. We’re transferring a demo 6.5 Zero Gravity to Triple J Armory in Littleton, CO. If anyone in the Denver area wants to check it out or get some range time with it, feel free to stop by. They’ll have it for about two weeks before Form 3’ing it back to us. I will update this when it arrives to them.

 

[Tahoe1305]

Denver Demo. I’ve been in contact with @h2so4 , who’s friends with the owner of Triple J Armory. We’re transferring a demo 6.5 Zero Gravity to Triple J Armory in Littleton, CO. If anyone in the Denver area wants to check it out or get some range time with it, feel free to stop by. They’ll have it for about two weeks before Form 3’ing it back to us. I will update this when it arrives to them.

Appreciate it Danny. Working with team of dudes to have some fun/compare with it. Fingers crossed the timing works out.

 

[DB29]

Deleted the last post — quick update on the .22 prototype. It’s handling .22 Creedmoor without issue, and we’ve got a lot more testing ahead. Check out the video of Dioni shooting it on his .22 Creed over on our YouTube page. What kind of testing would you like to see next, and who should we send it to for review when the time comes?

Looks awesome! This whole turbulence making stuff quieter is very interesting!

Send 1 to me… If you are looking for nobody special to test and review it. I have a scythe and reaper on the way I can compare it to. I shoot .223 almost exclusively these days.

 

[HuntHarder]

Great idea to transfer a demo around. I think this is an excellent strategy to prevent buyers remorse and allow comparison.

 

[h2so4]

I’ll post some additional details and dates / times for dedicated demo on the range.

Please hold off contacting triple j directly for this. I’ll post and if you have immediate questions on schedules, shoot me a
Message here.

 

[AndrewMT34]

I have the 6.5 Zero Gravity and absolutely love it. If anyone in North Idaho/Eastern Washington wants to hear it/check it out feel free to reach out.

 

[4th_point]

Pew Science has made big claims about being peer reviewed, but has never bothered to prove it. Since I know a thing or two about acoustics from substantial work in another field, this irks me. The TBAC Summit came into existence for good reason, even if it isn't perfect (but what is?).

I don't think Pew guy claims that his method is peer reviewed. If I recall correctly, the ear model for predicting damage is what is peer reviewed.

Pew has a gimmick to boil things down to damage potential which is marketable to someone. I don't have interest in his proprietary methods, but that doesn't mean that it's totally worthless either.

At least he has the proper background to actually collect the data, analyze the data, and report the data. I haven't seen that level of competence from any suppressor manufacturer. Everyone just states sound levels but the consumer has no idea of the test limitations that affect the results.

In other words, just because someone buys a meter or analyzer, it doesn't mean that they are qualified to use it. And certainly not report values that they don't understand. Buyer beware?

And you are correct in that the TBAC tests have issues as well but that doesn't mean that they can't get it sorted out for 2026.

 

[4th_point]

I will call Pew tomorrow and see how much they charge to perform their testing. If it’s reasonable, I will pay for it out of my pocket and share the results…

Shoot me a PM if you need another option to get some testing done by a competent person. It won't be me either, just so you know that I'm not trying to make a buck!

 

[AZ_Hunter]

The Pewscience scale has nothing scientific behind it. Its also expensive.

Ken

Exactly. Pew Science is really Poo Science.

 

[Split toe]

The Pewscience scale has nothing scientific behind it.

Ken

That's a strong statement there, one might say baseless.

 

[Split toe]

Exactly. Pew Science is really Poo Science.

What method/testing is better? The only other people that have attempted something similar is the TBAC guys with their TBAC Summit.

 

[AZ_Hunter]

What method/testing is better? The only other people that have attempted something similar is the TBAC guys with their TBAC Summit.

Exactly that. The TBAC summit.

 

[Tahoe1305]

I personally think both venues for testing are useful pieces of data. I don’t pay for pew but their free results are helpful. Maybe not stand alone, but combined with other data like summit data it helps to validate one testers results with another.

I’ll always take multiple sources vs just one…..I’ll say those combined with bro science on here are even more helpful.

 

[Q_Sertorius]

I personally think both venues for testing are useful pieces of data. I don’t pay for pew but their free results are helpful. Maybe not stand alone, but combined with other data like summit data it helps to validate one testers results with another.

I’ll always take multiple sources vs just one…..I’ll say those combined with bro science on here are even more helpful.

If you don't know how a bare rifle measured under the same circumstances and you don't have a variety of cans tested at the same time, it really isn't that helpful.

The other thing with all this is that we now have SAAMI standards for how to test sound suppression. They are voluntary and some of their testing methodology is a bit absurd (e.g. 24' barrel length for non-magnum rifles), but I think it would behoove any manufacturer to at least start with the SAAMI setup as a testing point.

 

[Salmon River Solutions]

That's a strong statement there, one might say baseless.

Half a base, I only have one functioning leg.

Its literally some secret recipe the dudes cooking... Why not use a standard scale, that is scalable against the standard (MIL SPEC).

 

[atmat]

Its literally some secret recipe the dudes cooking... Why not use a standard scale, that is scalable against the standard (MIL SPEC).

Using a proprietary algorithm doesn’t make it un-scientific.

I don’t reference his stuff and hate that everything is proprietary. So I’m not arguing for him as a resource. But that alone doesn’t make it un-scientific.

 

[ACHILLES]

Not sure why everyone is so eager to have it sent off to be tested other than just to nerd out.
Danny B is going to provide db(a) numbers from a quality meter beside other known cans. That’s really all I need to know

 

[thinhorn_AK]

Not sure why everyone is so eager to have it sent off to be tested other than just to nerd out.
Danny B is going to provide db(a) numbers from a quality meter beside other known cans. That’s really all I need to know

Seriously. Some people have the ability to take the fun out of everything by overthinking.

 

[HuntHarder]

Gonna be great when you can private party sell these things easier/ cheaper. Much less of a critical decision on the initial purchase. If you do not like the suppression or sound, take a small hit and move on.

 

[gtriple]

Gonna be great when you can private party sell these things easier/ cheaper. Much less of a critical decision on the initial purchase. If you do not like the suppression or sound, take a small hit and move on.

For sure. I've got a couple of TBAC cans that might be on their way out at some point.