Air Lock Industries Suppressor

[realunlucky]

You were answering a question directed at people who have used both suppressors. You haven’t used both suppressors.

All you should do in a circumstance like that is attempt to be objective. Until these suppressors are tested under the same circumstances, it’s impossible to know which one is really quieter. But arguing that a can whose designer rates at 129.5 SE dBA is quieter than another can whose designer rates at 127 - and which you have never even heard - is just a bit ludicrous. That doesn’t even rate “listen to my cell phone recording” level of worthwhile.

I like Airlock as a company. Their design process seems solid. I appreciate their goals. They are very responsive and open. My interactions with Danny have been great. The EXO interview was very informative and promising. I am looking forward to learning more about the products and hopefully will get my hands on one before New Years. But until I have some basis for subjective opinions, I will stick to published facts. And, as mentioned, I really look forward to seeing objective verification of each published sound rating. Our ears are not the best tools for that job.

You haven't used both either have you?

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[Q_Sertorius]

You haven't used both either have you?

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I have not used either one. That’s why I didn’t answer the question when it was asked.

 

[Hurley88]

So I fired one round out of the Otter Creek…it didn’t ring my ears at all. Not even later on in the day (which is the reason I waited to post). Usually my tinnitus will ramp up and stay more annoying after exposure to sounds that don’t immediately aggravate me. But not so today.

I put the earpro back on to continue testing. Shot two with the OG 30cal then two with the Otter Creek. Let them both cool, then did it again.
Again, the Otter Creek was definitely quieter than the OG. Then I shot two with the Airlock. And again it seemed much much closer to the Hydrogen-L than to the OG.

Well…no guts no glory. Would the Airlock make me say that I’d never ever shoot it without earpro? I decided to take care of what I could from the phone (again busy day), drove off to get some food at their clubhouse, and answered emails while I ate. After about a half hour I went back for the final shot.

With no earpro, I shot one round out of the Airlock. It did not ring my ears! Happy day.

Let’s talk tone. Throughout these shots it was very consistent. The OG had more of a boom, while the Hydrogen-L was a very sharp crack. I didn’t like the sharp crack at all. The Airlock is like a hiss; it’s definitely more toward the Hydrogen-L, but softer. Not a deep boom but not a sharp crack either. Closer to the normal sharp crack though. But smoothed out and less annoying.

That’s all for now, once I take it home I can comment more on balance/weight, whether it’s obtrusive through the scope, all the finer details. But so far I’m very pleased. I don’t know how the Otter Creek Hydrogen-L stacks up in the market either; it’s just what they suggested when I asked for their best.

I’ll say this though. I walked away very impressed by the Airlock 6.5

 

[Q_Sertorius]

I don’t know how the Otter Creek Hydrogen-L stacks up in the market either; it’s just what they suggested when I asked for their best.

I’ll say this though. I walked away very impressed by the Airlock 6.5

The OCL Hydrogen L measured 123.68 SE dBA at the TBAC summit. That’s pretty close to as quiet as .30 caliber suppressors get with supersonic .308. One other one measured 122.08.

I am glad to hear that you are happy with your purchase. For your sake, I hope you will take your own advice so you can continue to enjoy the hearing you have going forward.

Thank you for the report, Hurley.

 

[Presswood_936]

So I fired one round out of the Otter Creek…it didn’t ring my ears at all. Not even later on in the day (which is the reason I waited to post). Usually my tinnitus will ramp up and stay more annoying after exposure to sounds that don’t immediately aggravate me. But not so today.

I put the earpro back on to continue testing. Shot two with the OG 30cal then two with the Otter Creek. Let them both cool, then did it again.
Again, the Otter Creek was definitely quieter than the OG. Then I shot two with the Airlock. And again it seemed much much closer to the Hydrogen-L than to the OG.

Well…no guts no glory. Would the Airlock make me say that I’d never ever shoot it without earpro? I decided to take care of what I could from the phone (again busy day), drove off to get some food at their clubhouse, and answered emails while I ate. After about a half hour I went back for the final shot.

With no earpro, I shot one round out of the Airlock. It did not ring my ears! Happy day.

Let’s talk tone. Throughout these shots it was very consistent. The OG had more of a boom, while the Hydrogen-L was a very sharp crack. I didn’t like the sharp crack at all. The Airlock is like a hiss; it’s definitely more toward the Hydrogen-L, but softer. Not a deep boom but not a sharp crack either. Closer to the normal sharp crack though. But smoothed out and less annoying.

That’s all for now, once I take it home I can comment more on balance/weight, whether it’s obtrusive through the scope, all the finer details. But so far I’m very pleased. I don’t know how the Otter Creek Hydrogen-L stacks up in the market either; it’s just what they suggested when I asked for their best.

I’ll say this though. I walked away very impressed by the Airlock 6.5

Man I’m glad you found a silencer that you’re happy with , Thanks for the write up !

 

[Hurley88]

Yeah dude, you called it. The Airlock is on a whole different level than the OG 30cal (when used on a 16” 243/6CM at least).

 

[HairyScandinavian]

Yeah dude, you called it. The Airlock is on a whole different level than the OG 30cal (when used on a 16” 243/6CM at least).

Appreciate the long drawn out posts with your thoughts, lots of value in that.

 

[thinhorn_AK]

I was already wanting an airlock, I’m pretty well sold at this point.

 

[Bluefish]

The OCL Hydrogen L measured 123.68 SE dBA at the TBAC summit. That’s pretty close to as quiet as .30 caliber suppressors get with supersonic .308. One other one measured 122.08.

I am glad to hear that you are happy with your purchase. For your sake, I hope you will take your own advice so you can continue to enjoy the hearing you have going forward.

Thank you for the report, Hurley.

It’s also almost double the weight of the airlock. Mine is 14oz with a DT mount. It’s also a long can. Longer and heavier than a DT AB 10 stack, about the same weight with the reflex. The air lock really does sound interesting, but I already have plenty of 6.5/30 cal cans. I want one in 35/45 cal as that’s what I have to use for hunting.

 

[Timjohnson11]

Impressive little can. Would love to see a direct sound comparison between the OG 6.5 and Airlock.

 

[Presswood_936]

I was already wanting an airlock, I’m pretty well sold at this point.

You should go ahead and order one and compare it to your OG 6.5

 

[sndmn11]

You should go ahead and order one and compare it to your OG 6.5

I wish you would have followed through on meeting up to show off your Airlock next to an OG like you said you would. That would have been a valuable experience for me to share here, and I was looking forward to it.

It actually turned me away from ordering an Airlock

 

[Presswood_936]

I wish you would have followed through on meeting up to show off your Airlock next to an OG like you said you would. That would have been a valuable experience for me to share here, and I was looking forward to it.

Yeah well we came through Denver at 2am . I did stop and let a couple others check it out . There’s enough people who have the airlock now and they have shared their experiences that it should be a no brainer … just order one

 

[sndmn11]

Yeah well we came through Denver at 2am . I did stop and let a couple others check it out . There’s enough people who have the airlock now and they have shared their experiences that it should be a no brainer … just order one

It comes off as something to hide on your end when you have a lot of posts raving about your Airlock and then flake out without communication.

"Just order one" doesn't hit in a trustworthy manner after that.

 

[Presswood_936]

It comes off as something to hide on your end when you have a lot of posts raving about your Airlock and then flake out without communication.

"Just order one" doesn't hit in a trustworthy manner after that.

I’m not a salesman , have no affiliation with airlock and owe you nothing dude . I told you I would meetup if we could make it work . Don’t buy one , I don’t care lol

 

[sndmn11]

I’m not a salesman , have no affiliation with airlock and owe you nothing dude . I told you I would meetup if we could make it work . Don’t buy one , I don’t care lol

You are the pseudo representative of Airlock here, and guerilla marketing arm. If it were different, your photos and videos wouldn't be used in Airlock's marketing and @DannyB would have done some sort of disassociating.

As it stands, you have been very adamant about Airlock and threw out an "I'll prove it" challenge that to flaked out on. These are items that are essentially a lifetime purchase, brand trust is paramount. The spokesperson of that brand flip-flopping from beating their drum to crickets when someone will take them up on their offer cost Airlock me as a customer.

Some here may appreciate that transparency, and I think that when you give someone your word you do actually owe them something. Integrity, reliability, and principled are all traits I value when interacting with companies and their official/unofficial associations.

 

[k_Riddle]

You are the pseudo representative of Airlock here, and guerilla marketing arm. If it were different, your photos and videos wouldn't be used in Airlock's marketing and @DannyB would have done some sort of disassociating.

As it stands, you have been very adamant about Airlock and threw out an "I'll prove it" challenge that to flaked out on. These are items that are essentially a lifetime purchase, brand trust is paramount. The spokesperson of that brand flip-flopping from beating their drum to crickets when someone will take them up on their offer cost Airlock me as a customer.

Some here may appreciate that transparency, and I think that when you give someone your word you do actually owe them something. Integrity, reliability, and principled are all traits I value when interacting with companies and their official/unofficial associations.

So an owner of a product not texting you at 2 in the morning so you can shoot and compare said product (at 2 in the morning) … means you boycott that whole company?

 

[sndmn11]

So an owner of a product not texting you at 2 in the morning so you can shoot and compare said product (at 2 in the morning) … means you boycott that whole company?

There was time before and after; the conversation started over four weeks prior. It's also been weeks since. That is a lot of 2 in the mornings...

When someone comes around saying they have the best product and they will prove it, then bails on doing so, it raises red flags. Especially when they keep coming back with the same claim.

Im not boycotting anyone nor did I call for that to take place. I am being transparent that the overt claims by an Airlock associate were ghosted, and seeing that person continue to post in a similar manner prompted me to highlight that failure.

 

[DannyB]

You are the pseudo representative of Airlock here, and guerilla marketing arm. If it were different, your photos and videos wouldn't be used in Airlock's marketing and @DannyB would have done some sort of disassociating.

@sndmn11 @Presswood_936 isn’t a representative, he’s just a fan of the product. We used his wolf photo because it’s a great shot and received a lot of positive feedback.

If you’re in the Denver area, I can either arrange a day to fly down and let you demo one personally, or see if there’s an FFL/range locally where I could Form 3 a demo unit for you to test there. I’ll need to do some digging to see what’s possible.

I’m very transparent and an open book with everything, feel free to send me a DM and I can share my number. If there are more Rokslide users in the Denver area interested in trying one out, maybe we could set up a demo day. I know I was DM’d about one previously, but the timing didn’t work out with our schedule.

 

[JoeK]

judging Airlock's integrity, reliability or any such principles or values as a company based on the statements or actions of and unaffiliated fanboy (no diss to Presswood just the parlance of our times) on the interweb and deeming them an "Airlock associate", "pseudo representative" or spokesperson for Airlock the company strikes me as completely unfair and detached from reality...