Air Lock Industries Suppressor

[Coopsdaddy]

Any news on a universal can like the 30 cal ultra 7?

 

[Alex Genereux]

I don't have a dog in this fight, but to be fair: in the recent S2H podcast with Cliff, he says that while this had been known as a general case for muzzle forward suppressors, the S2H/US team were surprised to find it to be the case with their design for OTB cans.

I wonder if it needs the back pressure to push the gases back into the OTB part which isn’t as necessary for front of barrel suppressors.

 

[AZ_Hunter]

I don't have a dog in this fight, but to be fair: in the recent S2H podcast with Cliff, he says that while this had been known as a general case for muzzle forward suppressors, the S2H/US team were surprised to find it to be the case with their design for OTB cans.

I heard that and was honestly surprised to hear him say that. I think he/US do not understand the physics and are learning through pure brute force due to being able to print so many prototypes. Which isn’t necessarily a bad thing and can net out to the same result as someone who does, but I still found that odd. Tightening the bore creates more back pressure in the system which in turn will make the reflex more efficient.

When I was designing and building cans, I spent years studying theory, patents, cross-sections and every available public resource… in the 2018-2020 timeframe there were some oustanding resources in the form of forums that no longer exist that were a wealth of information. RIP Dr. Dater.

I would guess without seeing the cross-section of the Airlock, it is a coaxial design which is why it is so efficient for size. It’s form factor and performance is very similar to the Delta P Brevis, which was one of the pioneers in 3D printed suppressors and achieved its performance using a coaxial baffle system.

 

[Timjohnson11]

The reality is there were a few initial claims and beliefs promoted by US that haven’t turned out to be completely water tight. At least not as they were manifested through the OG. There is a reason the OG is being undercut by the OG 6.5 so quickly by US.

I don’t fault US for this though and it wouldn’t impact my decision to potentially purchase a can from them in the future. The reality is they stuck their neck out a bit, with good intentions, and are learning and refining their philosophy and approach as all startups do. Would it suck to have just bought an OG only to now have the OG 6.5 available? Absolutely yes... That said, I think US’s intentions are for the best and they’d have my serious consideration when it comes to a new can.

 

[ZeroFoxGiven]

Getting some pics back from editing. If anyone is looking for a better idea on the size of the ZG, here you go.

This thing is TINY. Shorter, lighter, and smaller OD than the little 8oz can of Red Bull.

 

[Presswood_936]

Getting some pics back from editing. If anyone is looking for a better idea on the size of the ZG, here you go.

This thing is TINY. Shorter, lighter, and smaller OD than the little 8oz can of Red Bull.

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Great minds think alike

 

[ZeroFoxGiven]

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Except for the zero sugar part

 

[deerhunter628]

Yes it was a pre-production blem with a crack by the end cap so I put on a 11.5 5.56. Go to post 206 and read forward.

I dont see anything on the web site about the 7mm can. Is there a way to get a notification when the 7mm is available to buy?

 

[lintond]

Anybody have a comparison against an ultra 7?


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[Tahoe1305]

Anybody have a comparison against an ultra 7?


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Yeah and maybe I missed it but was there a comparison with a scythe too?

IMO scythe and U7 are pretty close.

 

[Kaleb]

Yeah and maybe I missed it but was there a comparison with a scythe too?

IMO scythe and U7 are pretty close.

My opinion too. My first two suppressors were evos. I couldn’t help but wonder what the higher price would get me over them. I bought a nomad ti and a friend bought the gen 2 ultra 7. I really couldn’t tell any difference so bought two more evos. I feel they were a great value for my needs. I have some now that are shorter some lighter some both but I don’t think I have any that are better for sound suppression. Not to my ears anyway.

I must admit though I’m either easier to please goofy ears maybe both but I’m happy with all the cans I have and can’t tell that much difference between any of them. They are all basically the same type though. For example:
EVO
Nomad ti
Scythe
OG
Noah ti
Polonium

 

[Homebrewer]

What @Coopsdaddy said..
Any news on a universal can like the 30 cal ultra 7?


Looking at the market for a Quieter 30 caliber can than my current suppressors.
Length is Not a concern or consideration.
Would not mind losing some of the weight.
Needs to handle 300 RUM or 300 Norma Improved.

- Saker 7.62 9"length, 20.7oz. Rated at 20" barrel for magnum calibers.
Full auto rated.
- Rugged Surge 7.62 - 9"length, 21.5oz
No barrel length restrictions. Belt-fed rated.

 

[ZeroFoxGiven]

What @Coopsdaddy said..

Looking at the market for a Quieter 30 caliber can than my current suppressors.
Length is Not a concern or consideration.
Would not mind losing some of the weight.
Needs to handle 300 RUM or 300 Norma Improved.

- Saker 7.62 9"length, 20.7oz.Rated at 20" barrel for magnum calibers. Full auto rated.
- Rugged Surge 7.62 - 9"length, 21.5oz No barrel length restrictions. Belt-fed rated.

What barrel length on the RUM?

 

[Homebrewer]

Prefer 26" length barrel. No less than 24.

 

[Ajsomp]

What @Coopsdaddy said..
Any news on a universal can like the 30 cal ultra 7?


Looking at the market for a Quieter 30 caliber can than my current suppressors.
Length is Not a concern or consideration.
Would not mind losing some of the weight.
Needs to handle 300 RUM or 300 Norma Improved.

- Saker 7.62 9"length, 20.7oz. Rated at 20" barrel for magnum calibers.
Full auto rated.
- Rugged Surge 7.62 - 9"length, 21.5oz
No barrel length restrictions. Belt-fed rated.

Don’t get anything rugged. Ever.

Look to CGS, CAT, Dillon suppressors.

 

[khuber84]

I dont see anything on the web site about the 7mm can. Is there a way to get a notification when the 7mm is available to buy?

Instagram.......

 

[Homebrewer]

Don’t get anything rugged. Ever.

Look to CGS, CAT, Dillon suppressors.

2015,, when I bought the Saker and Rugged cans from Silencer Shop.
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Do not believe CGS, CAT or Dillon existed - and there were No printed cans on the market at that time.

Would like to see what Airlock and US will bring to market.

 

[ZeroFoxGiven]

Don’t get anything rugged. Ever.

Look to CGS, CAT, Dillon suppressors.

Hard to argue with this. Every Rugged suppressor I’ve been around has been, loud.

 

[Ajsomp]

Hard to argue with this. Every Rugged suppressor I’ve been around has been, loud.

I own two.. so I learned the hard way. They sit in back of the safe with my deadair sandman s.

Anyone who wants a true measure of sound comparison just head to pewscience. Look at the rankings and base your purchase off your requirements.

I actually find it funny when people make comments about his business model, because generally it’s out of ignorance. Yes - he has a proprietary process that is repeatable and yes, he wants to make money like anyone else. But look at his professional resume. There’s a reason he can break down the science behind everything in depth. His reviews are 100% in line with my experience over 20 different suppressors. And generally, when things don’t rank out well on his scale, that holds true in person.

the airlock seems to perform well - but I don’t have one in hand to compare it, yet. It’s half the weight of the OG, nearly the same extension in front of the barrel, and meets the requirements for a hunting suppressor. It would be great to have on a 18” 6 creed, rokstok lite and Swfa 6x, which would put my rifle around 7.5lbs total or less.

I own two OGs and I plan to shoot them for hunting rifles until something better comes along. And then I will gladly use whatever that is instead and keep the og on back up rifles or trainers.

 

[Timjohnson11]

I own two.. so I learned the hard way. They sit in back of the safe with my deadair sandman s.

Anyone who wants a true measure of sound comparison just head to pewscience. Look at the rankings and base your purchase off your requirements.

I actually find it funny when people make comments about his business model, because generally it’s out of ignorance. Yes - he has a proprietary process that is repeatable and yes, he wants to make money like anyone else. But look at his professional resume. There’s a reason he can break down the science behind everything in depth. His reviews are 100% in line with my experience over 20 different suppressors. And generally, when things don’t rank out well on his scale, that holds true in person.

the airlock seems to perform well - but I don’t have one in hand to compare it, yet. It’s half the weight of the OG, nearly the same extension in front of the barrel, and meets the requirements for a hunting suppressor. It would be great to have on a 18” 6 creed, rokstok lite and Swfa 6x, which would put my rifle around 7.5lbs total or less.

I own two OGs and I plan to shoot them for hunting rifles until something better comes along. And then I will gladly use whatever that is instead and keep the og on back up rifles or trainers.

Are your OG’s quieter than your Rugged?