950 yard bull

[coyotekilla]

All yall saying the rifle hunters wound too many haven't been on a bow hunters page that allows tracking dog requests....
Check out a fb page, pa deer hunters, our archers are always looking for a dog to find a critter.
Id take a keen hand, a long shot, and a good rifle over a crossbow at 40 yds...

 

[Kyguy]

All yall saying the rifle hunters wound too many haven't been on a bow hunters page that allows tracking dog requests....
Check out a fb page, pa deer hunters, our archers are always looking for a dog to find a critter.
Id take a keen hand, a long shot, and a good rifle over a crossbow at 40 yds...

This is fact. I'm on a page for Northern KY sportsman and it seems there's been at least one post about a tracking dog everyday since bow season opened in Kentucky.

 

[tntrker]

Doesn't matter what tech he used, any "normal" hunter, that doesn't practice on a regular basis out at that range, isn't going to pull that shot off. I think it was/is prudent to use tech at that range to "insure" a clean death on the animal vs guessing and wounding one. Again, practicing at that range is key, tech frees up the guessing and a nonlethal shot happening...kudos on the shot.

 

[wind gypsy]

Sounds like hunting with a side of luck to me.

 

[Beendare]

Thats not my thing....I mostly hunt with a recurve BUT I have to give the guy credit, he obviously worked hard and knew what he was doing. That takes dedication and skill.

I don't have a problem with that....it's the hunters that don't know their equipment intimately I have a problem with.

 

[LostArra]

But trying to find a downed bull in the dark from 950 yards away probably took a little hunting or dumb luck to find him.

My first thought too. How do you start looking for blood at 950 yards in the dark if it's not bang, flop?

I've been on a few search committees from well placed shots from my buddy's 6.5 PRC on elk from less than 950 and the last light hits didn't all go well. My buddy is a crack long range shooter. He practices regularly on a 1000 yard range on his farm. He's got all the tech dialed in. Just not my thing.


Congrats to the shooter in this case. Great job!

 

[dirtshooter]

All these posts and no pics of moose or gun....

 

[Balderdash]

Thats not my thing....I mostly hunt with a recurve BUT I have to give the guy credit, he obviously worked hard and knew what he was doing. That takes dedication and skill.

I don't have a problem with that....it's the hunters that don't know their equipment intimately I have a problem with.

I agree. Whatever the method of take, its not the range, its the shooter.

As Dirty Harry made famous - "A Man has got to know his limitations."

 

[S.Clancy]

To me, in order for it to be hunting it has to follow fair chase. 950, for me, isn't fair chase.

 

[KurtR]

The object of hunting is killing something. So good on him and a good shot

 

[Trogon]

Ive got no problem with marksman that execute clean shots at any range. The problem as I see it is long range shooting has been glorified by the masses such that for every one marksman that executes cleanly, there are hundreds that are slinging lead all over the place during hunting season. You tube is full of shots with multiple clear misses before a hit, and Im guessing only the kill hits get shown and wounding hits don't. I think same can be said for the glorification of archery hunting as the pinnacle of bro-apex-hunter culture.

 

[180ls1]

IMO as soon as I'm ready to pull the trigger (gun, bow, whatever), the hunting is over and now I'm just shooting.......regardless what the distance is, or the circumstances are. I like hunting and shooting.

But trying to find a downed bull in the dark from 950 yards away probably took a little hunting or dumb luck to find him.

I am guessing the guy had the software (binos/rangefinder/mapping app/device) that let him drop a pin exactly where the impact was and where they last saw it.

Not that it solves the problem but it would make things a whole lot easier.

 

[Balderdash]

To me, in order for it to be hunting it has to follow fair chase. 950, for me, isn't fair chase.

I can see that perspective, and I have set personal limits much closer than 950 to preserve the hunt. I often take open sights and low X scopes on old school rigs because I enjoy getting close. Just the same, I shoot 950 and more with multiple rigs for fun, so I know it can be done ethically on game if conditions are right.

One problem for me is that I don't know how we'd begin to establish a maximum "fair chase" or "ethical" range. Certainly, the better shooters and equipment get, the further the limit is going to go. I don't see it as ending any time soon.

My main reservation on the whole deal is that I think of the large bucks and bulls I've let go through the years because I considered them beyond my personal limit, but yet they'd have still been in a lot of folks' comfortable distance. As time goes on, fewer and fewer of those animals are going to make it through hunting seasons, thereby leaving either less opportunities to chase them because tags will be cut, or lower quality animals if the same number of tags are given out. Its already a cycle in which opportunities are limited, so one has good gear and practices to be successful in any situation offered, which, ultimately, effectuates less opportunities in the future.

 

[Split toe]

Sounds like hunting with a side of luck to me.

Luck usually finds the prepared.

 

[BBob]

Luck usually finds the prepared.

“The harder you work the luckier you get”

 

[wind gypsy]

Luck usually finds the prepared.

Sure.

Takes an awful lot of preparation to have good first round odds from 950 in hunting conditions with an AR on a "tripod vise".

 

[DuckDawg22]

Ive got no problem with marksman that execute clean shots at any range. The problem as I see it is long range shooting has been glorified by the masses such that for every one marksman that executes cleanly, there are hundreds that are slinging lead all over the place during hunting season. You tube is full of shots with multiple clear misses before a hit, and Im guessing only the kill hits get shown and wounding hits don't. I think same can be send for the glorification of archery hunting as the pinnacle of bro-apex-hunter culture.

Yep, this is where I'm at. The guy who is equipped to make a hit at 950 is probably prepared for the work that follows in terms of recovering said animal. Make the killing part "easy" and then get to work on the rest. Can we say the same about the Rogan class of archers shooting 90lb bows but have never used a knife before? Cam Hanes did a recent podcast on meat care and had a ton of stories of new archers getting animals down in areas they have no chance of getting the meat out of. What's worse?

 

[pacoalcracker]

If you had time to walk to the truck and back carrying all that gear and setting it up you certainly had time to cover 600 yards to get closer. Heck, he had time to get close enough to kick it in the ass. At any rate, it was his choice and he got it done.

 

[Coopsdaddy]

I say it’s awesome.Wish I could do that.
It’s all what you get out of it.My buddy uses a garmin sight on his bow.
I wouldn’t take that sight for free but I use a hand held range finder bow hunting.
I’m not hunting with a crossbow ever,but I would hunt with someone that uses one if that’s his jam.
I see all the optics with ranging and Bluetooth and no way am I spend 5-6000 dollars on that stuff.
I’ll send 1000-1500 on some used binos and a better range finder and practice shooting more.
Having a simple range finder and looking at my dope card is my limit on what I want to do not because of funds but because of the personal limit I want to stay within.Its what I get out of the hunt.

 

[Fireflyfishing]

All I have to say is congrats to him!