7 day Central Idaho Pack Dump

[Gooden123]

Figured I'd throw this on here for a few reasons. One, I like this app and haven't seen it mentioned on here. It's great for a checklist if nothing else.

Seven Devils (47.1lbs / 21.3kg)

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Also open to any advice but a few things mostly regarding weight. Since it's serving as a checklist before leaving home, I'm not packing all of it into the mountain. But most of it will go. The weight includes optics, trekking poles and what I'm wearing on my body down to the smallest detail (i.e. orthotics, my phone, etc). Something a lot of people tend to leave out. As of now, I'm going to be packing with llamas, hence 'unnecessary' things like the woodstove and extra clothes.

Off the top of my head and especially if the llama situation changes, I'll likely leave behind:

*Woodstove
*One of my down jackets (probably SG Grumman)
*Maybe the Kuhli tarp (21 oz with 6 extra stakes!) or rain pants
*Pack rain cover (everything is in a contractor bag)
*Kenai Gloves
*Kuiu 240 beanie
*One powerbank (probably will bring two NB10000's, leave the NB20000)
*Definitely don't need the whole game bag set but unsure what I will need or if my partner needs some)
*Sig P320 XTen since I won't be in known G-bear country and that's a ton of dead weight when I have a rifle. 3.3 lbs with a loaded mag and Razco shell.

 

[Gooden123]

Sample daily ration = 3,685 calories @ 1.8 lbs (2 tortillas and 1 oz Fritos) x 5 days because I'll have plenty left to get through 2 more days if need be. Even stretched out 7 days it's 2,600+ calories per day. My metabolism is very fast.

 

[Truck24hr]

Woodstove
*One of my down jackets (probably SG Grumman)
*Maybe the Kuhli tarp (21 oz with 6 extra stakes!) or rain pants
*Pack rain cover (everything is in a contractor bag)
*Kenai Gloves
*Kuiu 240 beanie
*One powerbank (probably will bring two NB10000's, leave the NB20000)
*Definitely don't need the whole game bag set but unsure what I will need or if my partner needs some)
*Sig P320 XTen since I won't be in known G-bear country and that's a ton of dead weight when I have a rifle. 3.3 lbs with a loaded mag and Razco shell.

I'd leave all that, Llamas or not.

Ditch 1 pair of pant, 3 of the gloves, and only bring 1 10k battery bank. On that note, I find the capacity of the 20k NiteCore is equal to only about 1.5x of the 10k.

Did I miss the inreach or Zoleo?

 

[Gooden123]

I'd leave all that, Llamas or not.

That's the other reason I posted. I feel like a lot more can be left behind now that I know how dry and warm it should be. The llama handler suggested I bring the stove just because I have an opportunity to use it. But...

 

[Truck24hr]

That's the other reason I posted. I feel like a lot more can be left behind now that I know how dry and warm it should be. The llama handler suggested I bring the stove just because I have an opportunity to use it. But...

I'd prefer to spend my time hunting, eating, or sleeping, than looking for wood or tending a very inefficient heating method.

 

[Gooden123]

I'd prefer to spend my time hunting, eating, or sleeping, than looking for wood or tending a very inefficient heating method.

Agreed. My main thought since he told me to bring it was a good way to dry gear if I were to get wet. I probably wouldn't even bring an extra pair of pants. Not saying it's a good reason to justify 3.5 lbs, but a reason. And cutting out the extra pants and rain pants would drop 1.5 lbs. Thanks though, you confirmed my thoughts about just not wanting to waste time.

 

[khart_6882]

Mostly out of curiosity, because they hardly weigh anything. But do you consume that many drink mixes in a single day??

 

[mtnbound]

Figured I'd throw this on here for a few reasons. One, I like this app and haven't seen it mentioned on here. It's great for a checklist if nothing else.

Seven Devils (47.1lbs / 21.3kg)

Check out my pack on PackWizard!

www.packwizard.com

Also open to any advice but a few things mostly regarding weight. Since it's serving as a checklist before leaving home, I'm not packing all of it into the mountain. But most of it will go. The weight includes optics, trekking poles and what I'm wearing on my body down to the smallest detail (i.e. orthotics, my phone, etc). Something a lot of people tend to leave out. As of now, I'm going to be packing with llamas, hence 'unnecessary' things like the woodstove and extra clothes.

Off the top of my head and especially if the llama situation changes, I'll likely leave behind:

*Woodstove
*One of my down jackets (probably SG Grumman)
*Maybe the Kuhli tarp (21 oz with 6 extra stakes!) or rain pants
*Pack rain cover (everything is in a contractor bag)
*Kenai Gloves
*Kuiu 240 beanie
*One powerbank (probably will bring two NB10000's, leave the NB20000)
*Definitely don't need the whole game bag set but unsure what I will need or if my partner needs some)
*Sig P320 XTen since I won't be in known G-bear country and that's a ton of dead weight when I have a rifle. 3.3 lbs with a loaded mag and Razco shell.

My two cents, and thanks for sharing.

Depending on the weather, the recommendation of a tent stove is not a bad one. Yes, they do require time to gather and process wood, but looking at your gear list, you look to be set up for glassing, which means lots of your time will be spent stationary, and if the weather is typical for fall, you will most likely be dealing with some form of precipitation and colder temps so the odds are good you will be cold and wet at times and with the lamas needing dayly water you will probaly be camping close to water which will increase condensation and wetness.

I would bring everything to the trailhead and, based on what the current conditions are and what the next 7-day forecast predicts, make your final "unnecessary" gear choices at that time.

I would only bring one set of pants, one bennie, drop the crocs depending on the weather, 1 set of base layers, and the top being a fish net merino.
Add another insulation layer piece.
Drop a set of the gloves and add some mittens.
Drop 1 of the puffy jackets.
With colder temps, I would drop the bug bivy.
If the weather is cold, you will use your Jetboil more, so I would consider a 230 canister instead of the 100, unless you decide to bring the tent stove.

 

[mtnbound]

Sample daily ration = 3,685 calories @ 1.8 lbs (2 tortillas and 1 oz Fritos) x 5 days because I'll have plenty left to get through 2 more days if need be. Even stretched out 7 days it's 2,600+ calories per day. My metabolism is very fast.

With your fast metabolism, I'm surprised you can stretch your 5-day food plan to 7 days without being in a caloric deficit. It also looks like you are heavy on fats but low on carbs. Is that what works for you? Does your caloric demand go up in cold weather?

 

[Gooden123]

@mtnbound

Sorry this is for spring bear. Arrival on 5/15, west central ID. Should be pretty arid and warm. But yes I'll be close to water. Bug bivy is for ticks and just keeping my sleep system contained/clean (floorless shelter). I did 8 days solo in wet Alaska last Sept and never got changed other than mid & outer layers. There are other examples but that's when I realized I don't need extra pants, merino long sleeve, long johns, etc. I'll just bring a liner beanie and a fl. orange one in case I need to flag someone down or mark something. In RE: to carbs, there's ~400g pictured. My natural diet is pretty much keto and my daily life is highly active.

Back to Alaska, I had 2 full days of food left on the back end. I think it's because I wake up for work @ 2 a.m. and skip breakfast. Just not hungry. I can't easily stop for lunch either. Then hammer dinner. Repeat. I often have to force myself to eat 'normal' in the backcountry to keep from crashing out. Having daily rations bagged helps stay on track, but I still find myself skipping around especially on low exertion days spent glassing. I'll throw another day's food in there to be safe as this is likely the most rugged and vertical terrain I've ever been in.

@khart_6882

I do consume all those drink mixes. I used to be a heavy drinker and quit in 2019. Haven't had a drop since. I think I still have a habit of 'drinking' and don't care for plain water, though I'll drink that in between because I have to. Also, those mixes do different things. Coffee obviously. Hydration/electrolytes. Enduro is caffeine free, but has nootropics which drastically help me stay focused. Ignite is basically Enduro with caffeine. Slumber knocks me out at night, tired or not. But it only has 3 mg of melatonin so I'll still wake up if something stirs me. And I don't wake up for the day feeling groggy.

 

[Gooden123]

Here are some pics of the Borah Bivy. It's not much and not 'waterproof'. I wish I had them sew a strip of mesh down the center of the top to help vent it. I have concerns about condensation. Not necessarily on this hunt, but in more damp areas. I got the lighter fabric so maybe that will help? We'll see.

 

[MImatt]

Cool website and thanks for sharing your packing list, always like to see what others are doing to get ideas.

Probably never will use that website though since I really don't want to know how much I have spent!!!

 

[Gooden123]

Cool website and thanks for sharing your packing list, always like to see what others are doing to get ideas.

Probably never will use that website though since I really don't want to know how much I have spent!!!

Haha I hear you! It's eye opening for sure but I spent way less than retail for pretty much everything I own. A lot of the details are pre-loaded in the site so I just double checked the weight was correct and the money is already gone

 

[mike.adams.467]

I would ditch the handgun and save 2#,