6mm cm bear bullet

[Dinglebottoms]

Given the limited range, how about the Nosler Partition?

Not a factory option on a 6 creed and the bullets I have are going to hold together about the same so I may just shoot them

 

[glock233]

Read the 223 on game thread on this forum.

You’re going to want to use ELDM or ELDX in factory loads. “Tough” bullets are kept going by mythology.

 

[Dinglebottoms]

Read the 223 on game thread on this forum.

You’re going to want to use ELDM or ELDX in factory loads. “Tough” bullets are kept going by mythology.

I don’t disagree, I think when bullets dump all energy in an animal causing massive amounts of trauma is a special thing

 

[glock233]

I don’t disagree, I think when bullets dump all energy in an animal causing massive amounts of trauma is a special thing

Energy is irrelevant. Ultimately it’s the fragmentation making permanent wound channels.

 

[TradLife406]

116 tmk

 

[Kimber7man]

95 grain Nosler Ballistic Tip is another to consider

 

[YaakRiver]

First scenario: if I know I'm shooting short range like you described and the area around the bait site will be fairly open (making it easy to spot the bear after it's hit) and since I love black bear meat, I'd go with a mono-metal bullet. At that distance, the amount of damage that a "match" style bullet will do to the surrounding meat is massive. A copper solid will make a decent golf ball sized permanent wound cavity but won't damage much meat if any. The bear may go a tad further though so being able to watch it run for 20+ yards is important.

Second scenario: if I know I'm shooting short range like you described and the area around the bait site will be fairly thick, I'm choosing an ELD-M or a TMK because I want the biggest permanent and temporary wound cavity that I can get. All the bears I've seen hit in both lungs with "cup and core" style bullets have piled up in 5-10 yards.

I saw 3 bears killed this year. 2 with a 147 ELD-M out of a 6.5 PRC and 1 with a CX bullet out of a 6.5 PRC. The 2 with the the ELD-Ms were both around 125 yard shots. Both bears ran about 5 yards and piled up. Both had massive wound channels that liquified the lungs and took massive chunks of the heart out. They also caused a lot of bloodshot meat to the front shoulders and the backstraps. The bear that was hit with the CX bullet went around 20ish yards (still not far) before piling up. Shot distance was 60 yards. There was a nice neat golfball sized hole through both lungs and the only meat that was damaged was the ribs.

*edited for spelling error and added the shot distance with the CX bullet

 

[glock233]

116 tmk. 107 tmk. 103 ELDX. 108 ELDM. 110 tipped fusion.

If your imaginings need to be satisfied with a bullet that feels tougher, Nosler partition 100gr.

Just avoid monometals. There’s more to wound dynamics than you are thinking. Anything will kill with ideal placement. It’s a question of speed of killing and what happens with marginal hits.

 

[Dinglebottoms]

First scenario: if I know I'm shooting short range like you described and the area around the bait site will be fairly open (making it easy to spot the bear after it's hit) and since I love black bear meat, I'd go with a mono-metal bullet. At that distance, the amount of damage that a "match" style bullet will do to a good bit of the surrounding meat is massive. A copper solid will make a decent golf ball sized permanent wound cavity but won't damage much meat if any. The bear may go a tad further though so being able to watch it run for 20+ yards is important.

Second scenarion: if I know I'm shooting short range like you described and the area around the bait site will be fairly thick, I'm choosing an ELD-M or a TMK because I want the biggest permanent and temporary wound cavity that I can get. All the bears I've seen hit in both lungs with "cup and core" style bullets have piled up in 5-10 yards.

I saw 3 bears killed this year. 2 with a 147 ELD-M out of a 6.5 PRC and 1 with a CX bullet out of a 6.5 PRC. The 2 with the the ELD-Ms were both around 125 yard shots. Both bears ran about 5 yards and piled up. Both had massive wound channels that liquified the lungs and took massive chunks of the heart out. They also caused a lot of bloodshot meat to the front shoulders and the backstraps. The bear that was hit with the CX bullet went around 20ish yards (still not far) before piling up. There was a nice neat golfball sized hole through both lungs and the only meat that was damaged was the ribs.

That makes total sense I like how you explained both scenarios, I’ll definitely keep that in mind when I choose a stand.

 

[TCUHunter34]

I just used the 108 ELDM from an 18” 6mm CM on a 400 yard shot. Destroyed both lungs and the bear died within 30 yards. The bullet exited off side shoulder as well

 

[YaakRiver]

This is a video (referenced in my previous comment) of the 60 yard shot with the 130 gr CX bullet from a 6.5 PRC. You can see the bear stop at the end of the video - he went maybe another 10-15' and piled up in the trees.