6.5 Creedmoor Hornady 140 ELDM for Bull Elk

[Newelkhntr1967]

Good morning fellas. I am taking my 6.5 CM to Colorado for 2nd rifle this year. I’ve read a decent amount concerning match grade bullets being used for elk successfully and consistently. I’m wondering if this bullet is up to the task? If so, what about max effective range on elk, and what shots would one avoid? With all due respect, I don’t care to hear any suggestions about using something bigger, or 30 cal this or that. This is my rifle, and if I happen to see a legal bull elk, I will be attempting to harvest him with this gun. BTW, Remington 700 SPS AACSD with 22” 8 twist. Competent to 5-600 yards under ideal circumstances. Don’t think I’d attempt any further, and only that range with near perfect conditions. Thank you for your input. Bill

 

[ARK_Ginger]

These threads are a good read for what you're looking for.

6mm/6.5

I didn't want to derail another thread. So I started this one. Who has shot/witnessed a big game animal past 500 yards with a 6mm or 6.5? Many members here love to tell you their opinion about it, but I am figuring out that damn few have done it. So if you have, please tell me the chambering...

rokslide.com

6.5 Creedmoor/260 for Deer, Elk, and whatever else.....

Seeing that the 223 thread is such a success, I thought maybe I would start one for the Creedmoor/260. Seems like people are asking a lot about using them and various bullets, especially for elk. I've used mine for the last few years almost exclusively. I have some pics of bullet damage, albeit...

rokslide.com

 

[Newelkhntr1967]

Thank you ark!

 

[Gadjet]

I’ve witnessed several bulls and cows killed with a Creedmoor out to 450 yards. Most of them one shot kills. Take your gun and go hunting! Good luck.

 

[Newelkhntr1967]

Thanks Gadjet! Do you know what bullet? I’m seeing a lot of eldx, Berger otms, vlds, etc, and other Match bullet like eldms. I have about 500 rounds of 140 eldms, and they are great in my Remington. If they are as good as the other, I assume hunt with them, s as I’m comfortable with and the Hornady 4DOF app.

 

[ElGuapo]

Dude… Please don’t. Bull Elk are legitimately “tough” and not always easy to kill. They deserve our respect and for us to use appropriate calibers and bullets. IMO, 308 30-06, 7 REM mag and the like should be minimum with good bullets that will hold together.

There’s a reason that many outfitters have forbidden the Creed for hunters coming to hunt elk. It’s a target round, not even intended to be a hunting round. I have no issue with guys shooting them at Deer, but Elk are not Mule Deer. They’re many times more difficult to kill cleanly and consistently.

 

[brockel]

Dude… Please don’t. Bull Elk are legitimately “tough” and not always easy to kill. They deserve our respect and for us to use appropriate calibers and bullets. IMO, 308 30-06, 7 REM mag and the like should be minimum with good bullets that will hold together.

There’s a reason that many outfitters have forbidden the Creed for hunters coming to hunt elk. It’s a target round, not even intended to be a hunting round. I have no issue with guys shooting them at Deer, but Elk are not Mule Deer. They’re many times more difficult to kill cleanly and consistently.

You do know what the 308 and 30-06 were originally designed for right?

 

[woods89]

OP, I think if you read the above linked threads you'll find the answers you're looking for. I'm taking a 6.5 CM with 130 TMK for 3rd season.

 

[jzeblaz]

You do know what the 308 and 30-06 were originally designed for right?

Killing humans?

 

[Newelkhntr1967]

Dude… Please don’t. Bull Elk are legitimately “tough” and not always easy to kill. They deserve our respect and for us to use appropriate calibers and bullets. IMO, 308 30-06, 7 REM mag and the like should be minimum with good bullets that will hold together.

There’s a reason that many outfitters have forbidden the Creed for hunters coming to hunt elk. It’s a target round, not even intended to be a hunting round. I have no issue with guys shooting them at Deer, but Elk are not Mule Deer. They’re many times more difficult to kill cleanly and consistentl

Dude… Please don’t. Bull Elk are legitimately “tough” and not always easy to kill. They deserve our respect and for us to use appropriate calibers and bullets. IMO, 308 30-06, 7 REM mag and the like should be minimum with good bullets that will hold together.

There’s a reason that many outfitters have forbidden the Creed for hunters coming to hunt elk. It’s a target round, not even intended to be a hunting round. I have no issue with guys shooting them at Deer, but Elk are not Mule Deer. They’re many times more difficult to kill cleanly and consistently.

You carry your elephant gun. As I said I don’t wanna hear 30 cal anything. Thanks for your concern but case closed.

 

[Newelkhntr1967]

OP, I think if you read the above linked threads you'll find the answers you're looking for. I'm taking a 6.5 CM with 130 TMK for 3rd season.

What is TMK? Not familiar???

 

[Newelkhntr1967]

You do know what the 308 and 30-06 were originally designed for right?

That’s right brockel. I think most folks put too much into what they have heard or what their daddy told them. Way too many events of 6.5 cm killing bull elk for me to be hesitant. I’m most confident in my gun, the cartridges accuracy, and if many are using it that’s what I want to use.

 

[woods89]

What is TMK? Not familiar???

Sierra Tipped Matchking

 

[9.3koolaid]

What is TMK? Not familiar???

 

[ElGuapo]

These threads are hilarious..

First- Mostly people just want confirmation of a decision that they’ve already made. They want to hear that of course, they’re right

Second- How many Elk have the guys giving the confirmation bias, have they killed, seen killed, or helped kill? Probably fewer than you might think.

I’m completely comfortable with my advice….. and BTW, I would hardly say the rounds that I suggested as minimums, are cannons.

 

[ElGuapo]

You do know what the 308 and 30-06 were originally designed for right?

Thanks for the attempt at insulting my intelligence. Pack a lunch.

 

[grappling_hook]

What is TMK? Not familiar???

Check this thread out, you'll see pictures of literal tons of elk killed with that TMK bullet (in .223 no less): https://rokslide.com/forums/threads/223-for-bear-deer-elk-and-moose.130488/

 

[Short Track]

There's a good video put out by Vortex, showing how the 6.5 out preforms the .308.

any my personal experience proves the 6.5CM with accubonds kills Moose... Caribou.. Aoudad. Not so good on Antelope..

 

[Newelkhntr1967]

These threads are hilarious..

First- Mostly people just want confirmation of a decision that they’ve already made. They want to hear that of course, they’re right

Second- How many Elk have the guys giving the confirmation bias, have they killed, seen killed, or helped kill? Probably fewer than you might think.

I’m completely comfortable with my advice….. and BTW, I would hardly say the rounds that I suggested as minimums, are cannons.

This is why I didn’t want input from the 30 cal crowd. Let me ask you one question…how many elk have you shot or WITNESSED being shot with a 6.5cm?

 

[swavescatter]

To answer OP's question, I think the general consensus is that the range should be limited to 1800FPS on ELD-M's. If I'm wrong someone please correct me.

That is likely beyond the 500-600 yard limit you self-imposed. My buddy has killed a pile of Bull Elk out to 500 with ELD-X (factory rounds), but with the match bullets I would not try to punch through the shoulder - slip it just behind the front legs.