I typically use Eddie Bauer Guide Pro pants since they offer tall sizes and can be had for under $50 on sale, and when I compare the First Lite Guide Lites to the EB Guide Pros, the First Lites seemed significantly louder. Even though the First Lites fit (usually wear a 34, had to order a 36), I went ahead and returned them (I like the versatility of the solid color EB pants better; add the noise factor and it was a no brainer to return them).