5 yards low??

[Jpsmith1]

Lets hop in the wayback machine and go back a couple weeks. 2nd week of August, I was shooting better than I think I ever have. Felt like I couldn't miss.

Did a competition that 2nd weekend and had 2 bad misses. B-A-D misses. Whiffed a ram and a deer at 30 and 35 respectively. It was raining, weighted pack, I had just run a couple miles and climbed almost 1000 feet I missed. Excuses. I do not think these are entirely why I missed the entire target. Missing a 10, maybe. The whole ass target? Nah.

The first miss, I THINK that I shot the bow with the arrow off the drop away fork and between the riser and the fork. The vanes were torn, the nock busted and the rest blade is still broken. I just got a new one in the mail. The second miss chocks up to sheer user error.

Since then, I just can't get my shot back. My mental sequence hasn't changed, but I can't hit $4!t. Did R100 this past weekend and wound up having to add between 5 and 8 yards to the ranges just to hit inserts. Left 3 on the course and, while I'm no pro, I don't miss like that.

Is there something I could have done by shooting my bow that way?

Bow is headed to the shop after work today.

 

[Joe Holden]

Did your rest move with the first miss / rest blade replacement? If vanes are torn and contact with rest was the cause, sounds like there could have been a shift to elevation. Especially if it's a consistent yardage you're having to add on current sight tape.

If going back to shop, check timing on string just to confirm.

 

[Billy Goat]

How do your bring your pin in to the shot?

It kinda sounds like target panic, with a horizontal component. Either coming up from the bottom or coming down from the top.

Do you lock in somewhere off what you are aiming at?

Im confused by the rest still being broken, and just getting new blade in the mail, shooting a different bow?

I think a little more details to determine if its between the axles or between the ears.

How do you grip the bow? If the bottom of your hand is in the grip, heel pressure can cause a lot of vertical stringing, especially if you are tired.
Im fighting a lot of grip issues currently.

 

[Jpsmith1]

How do your bring your pin in to the shot?

It kinda sounds like target panic, with a horizontal component. Either coming up from the bottom or coming down from the top.

Do you lock in somewhere off what you are aiming at?

Im confused by the rest still being broken, and just getting new blade in the mail, shooting a different bow?

I think a little more details to determine if its between the axles or between the ears.

How do you grip the bow? If the bottom of your hand is in the grip, heel pressure can cause a lot of vertical stringing, especially if you are tired.
Im fighting a lot of grip issues currently.

I draw slightly high and come down on the target. The pin floats tight. I click my release and slowly press through the shot.

Target panic is something that I see as a constant battle. I hear the gremlin screaming at me sometimes but I work hard to keep him out of my shot.

Bow grip runs along the 'meaty' part of my palm, wrist low.

One of the "forks" of the rest blade are cracked. The rest is perfectly functional as it is but it arrived the night before I was leaving and I didn't have time to swap it out and do any level of shooting afterwards as I didn't get home from work until well after dark.

 

[3forks]

I shoot a lot of tournaments, and have learned that when you are shooting well and feel you can’t miss, take every possible measurement off your bow and record them with the date and a note or two about how you’re shooting. *Do this when you set up your bow right out the box, too.

If you start shooting more 10s than 12s, or if you’re not in the middle of the 12 ring, you may start thinking it’s just you. However, it might be because you’re getting a drop in poundage from your bow’s strings and cables stretching.

What I wrote above isn’t the solution to you missing the whole target, but if you have all your measurements, you at least can eliminate some variables you’d otherwise be guessing at.

Regarding the animal you missed at 30 yards… was the shot at a steep uphill or downhill angle? If not that, I’d guess you somehow moved your anchor considering you were shooting with a pack, in the rain, and after a hike. Depending on how you anchor, a wet release hand could have made you feel like you were anchoring as you normally would, but actually you weren’t.

 

[Billy Goat]

Target panic is something that I see as a constant battle.

It's like the Herpes

Bow grip runs along the 'meaty' part of my palm, wrist low.

It can be hard to explain, but assuming knuckles at 45 degrees, meaty part below the thumb sounds right.

One of the "forks" of the rest blade are cracked. The rest is perfectly functional as it

If the rest fork was damaged from impact, its fair chance internal damage took place and it might not be functioning correctly. If part of the fork is broken off from an arrow impact, it wasn't getting out of the way, which could mean cable creep, or in some fashion your cord lost tension to activate the drop away before it was ever damaged. I have seen them work mostly, but hang up some, its from not quite enougg tension at full draw. Assuming its a QAD, several other variations of drop aways would really leave me puzzled how you damaged it.

 

[3forks]

Went back and re-read the OP’s post.

Since he’s still missing low after the event, my guess is strings and cables stretched, especially since he was shooting in the rain.

 

[Jpsmith1]

It's like the Herpes



It can be hard to explain, but assuming knuckles at 45 degrees, meaty part below the thumb sounds right.





If the rest fork was damaged from impact, its fair chance internal damage took place and it might not be functioning correctly. If part of the fork is broken off from an arrow impact, it wasn't getting out of the way, which could mean cable creep, or in some fashion your cord lost tension to activate the drop away before it was ever damaged. I have seen them work mostly, but hang up some, its from not quite enougg tension at full draw. Assuming its a QAD, several other variations of drop aways would really leave me puzzled how you damaged it.

Rest is a Ripcord.

The impact was from an arrow fired that was not within the "fork" because I messed up. I was wet, tired and winded. I missed a tiny detail. I replaced it this evening and the bow is shooting fine.

Saturday, the rest (cable driven) was not coming fully 'cocked' with the cable but did cock with my thumb. Buddy has pictures of it.

Today, it functions perfectly and the bow shoots bullet holes and, most importantly, shoots behind the pin.

 

[Jpsmith1]

I shoot a lot of tournaments, and have learned that when you are shooting well and feel you can’t miss, take every possible measurement off your bow and record them with the date and a note or two about how you’re shooting. *Do this when you set up your bow right out the box, too.

If you start shooting more 10s than 12s, or if you’re not in the middle of the 12 ring, you may start thinking it’s just you. However, it might be because you’re getting a drop in poundage from your bow’s strings and cables stretching.

What I wrote above isn’t the solution to you missing the whole target, but if you have all your measurements, you at least can eliminate some variables you’d otherwise be guessing at.

Regarding the animal you missed at 30 yards… was the shot at a steep uphill or downhill angle? If not that, I’d guess you somehow moved your anchor considering you were shooting with a pack, in the rain, and after a hike. Depending on how you anchor, a wet release hand could have made you feel like you were anchoring as you normally would, but actually you weren’t.

Pretty close to dead flat. And I had made the exact same two shots just 20 minutes prior.

Event is run up a mountain, across a field. Shoot 2. Run around the back field and repeat those 2 shots and run to the finish.

 

[Billy Goat]

Rest is a Ripcord.

The impact was from an arrow fired that was not within the "fork" because I messed up. I was wet, tired and winded. I missed a tiny detail. I replaced it this evening and the bow is shooting fine.

Saturday, the rest (cable driven) was not coming fully 'cocked' with the cable but did cock with my thumb. Buddy has pictures of it.

Today, it functions perfectly and the bow shoots bullet holes and, most importantly, shoots behind the pin.

If it wasn't coming fully cocked, sounds like you might not have enough cable tension.

Any of the rests you can cock by hand prior can get damaged by the impact it experienced from the arrow.

I'd be leary of it happening again, test it out a good bit.

 

[Jpsmith1]

If it wasn't coming fully cocked, sounds like you might not have enough cable tension.

Any of the rests you can cock by hand prior can get damaged by the impact it experienced from the arrow.

I'd be leary of it happening again, test it out a good bit.

I think I'm going to repeat the hose test I did when I came back from the big shoot. Hang the bow up, give it a good 10 minute soak and shoot it.

I have 2 Hamskea rests on here I have an eye on but I've kind of blown my budget for the year already and I'm hoping to get through the year with what I have.

 

[Billy Goat]

I think I'm going to repeat the hose test I did when I came back from the big shoot. Hang the bow up, give it a good 10 minute soak and shoot it.

I have 2 Hamskea rests on here I have an eye on but I've kind of blown my budget for the year already and I'm hoping to get through the year with what I have.

I'd put it in a draw board, at full draw see what happens if you apply a little more tension to the activation cable.

 

[5MilesBack]

If the rest fork was damaged from impact, its fair chance internal damage took place and it might not be functioning correctly.

This was my first thought.